Tech Disasters, Singalong Movies, and More with Tony Doe

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I think there's a lot of kindness in the world, it's just not being recorded.

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As much, it's just not being amplified as much, unfortunately, we're in a situation

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where virality, you know, people want to go viral for all the wrong reasons.

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And unfortunately, the power of the technology at the tips of people,

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you know the power of the technology we have sort of appeals to our worst

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and you know, our worst habits.

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Hi, and welcome to Five Random Questions, the show where

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every question is an adventure.

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I'm your host Danny Brown, and each week I'll be asking my guests five questions

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created by a random question Generator.

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The guest has no idea what the questions are, and neither do I,

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which means this could go either way.

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So, sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's episode.

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Today's guest is Tony Doe, an audio content strategist with

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years of experience on air, in production, and management for

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multi format radio stations.

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Most recently, it was Zobier 93.

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7 FM.

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He also curates, produces, and hosts the informative hybrid newsletter

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stroke podcast, Into the Podverse, which explores challenges and opportunities for

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podcasters from an African perspective.

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Tony also hosts the Tony Doe podcast with radio podcasters as guests,

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and UpGunners, a weekly review and tribute to his favorite football

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team, and, in fairness, the only football team that matters, Arsenal.

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Tony, welcome to the show, mate.

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How are you doing?

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Hey Danny, thanks.

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I like how you put that in.

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The only football club that matters.

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I agree.

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Exactly.

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I mean, yeah, there's lots of football clubs out there, but when it comes to

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beautiful football, it's only us though.

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Nah, none like us.

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None like us.

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So how are we doing this fine Saturday morning?

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Well, it's Saturday morning where I am.

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What time is it where you are, mate?

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It's a, it's Saturday evening here.

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It's a 5 40 PM.

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I do believe the Portugal match is on, but I just got in from

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announcing with the family and kids, my son turned 10 during the week.

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And this was the opportunity to kind of like hang out.

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And he's also a national fan.

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So that's also, and he's keeping tabs on all the players.

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at the Euros.

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So he's the one giving me updates about how well our

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players are doing at the Euros.

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So it's a fascinating time for both of us.

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It is, and it's always interesting to see how players that come from clubs

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that had a successful season, how they take that to their national teams.

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And I know there's a lot of criticism at the moment for Gareth Southgate

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and the way he's, he's playing Phil Ford and out of position.

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Obviously he's not Arsenal's Man City, but he's playing them out of position.

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So he's not been as good as he had an awesome season for City.

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Then you've got Declan Rice, he's not, he's been asked to do something

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different with Alexander Arnold next term.

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So yeah, it's interesting to see how that transfers.

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Yeah, it is.

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It really is.

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It's, it's a fascinating watch.

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I'm not too keen on Gareth Southgate's coaching abilities.

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I've never been.

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And I think that with the array of players at his disposal, he really should be

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doing a bit more and finding out what works, which players actually work.

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I don't think the Euros is a place you'd start making some funny experiments.

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And then sometimes I think he listens to the wrong people too.

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So he really should maybe trust his guts a little more.

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No, no,

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no.

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Yeah, I see some things pundits say and the next thing he's

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applying that it doesn't work, they come back and attack him for it.

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So I think he really needs to trust himself to know what he should do

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with the kind of players he has.

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Well, and they do say, I mean, who would be a football coach, right?

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Or who'd be a football manager?

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Because the amount of abuse and suggestions and everything that you get

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with that, I know you get paid a lot of money, but I think money isn't everything.

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If that kind of abuse is coming your way, I couldn't do that.

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True.

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I agree.

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It's a difficult job, really.

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It is.

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It is.

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And speaking of difficult jobs, we're going to give you

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five random questions, mate.

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So I hope you've brought your, your thinking head on and we'll get into that.

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I'm going to bring up my random Generator and we'll have a

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look at seeing what that is.

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Okay, so let's bring it up.

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You ready, Tony?

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Yes,

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I

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am.

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Okay, let's have a look.

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Question one.

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This is always a good funny thing to get kicking off.

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What's the stupidest thing you've done on your own free will?

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I would have to say is the most recent thing I've done.

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I had this external hard drive about one terabytes, had all my tools, my

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shows, my, even my movies and music.

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And I clicked on create.

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Quick format and I lost everything in less than 2 seconds.

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So I still don't know how I did it.

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I just know I moved my mouse and that happened.

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I'm still trying to find out why.

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Oh, my God.

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How much stuff was on there?

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That's a big amount of memory.

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Of stuff a lot of stuff because when I scanned the hard drive to see

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if I could recover the files It took almost four and a half hours just to

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scan And right now the hard drive is actually being an expert who's trying to

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help me retrieve and i'm being told it could take up To two weeks if i'm lucky.

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So yes, I feel terrible.

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There's so much a quick format can do.

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So please be careful.

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Next time you're right clicking on your drives on your windows PC, if you

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use windows PC, avoid anything that says format, please just avoid that.

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Now, is that all your stuff?

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So like your podcasting, your radio, your media stuff, or was there some

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personal stuff on there that now your wife, that was my workstation.

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All right.

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No, that was basically my workstation.

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Fortunately, what I do is some media files that the rest of the family enjoys quick.

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to extract those into a separate drive that they use, especially

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the ones with a series and stuff.

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But this was my work drive.

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I took it with me because I was out of town for a while.

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I was trying to transfer some files into a smaller USB and I didn't know when

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I'd didn't pay attention to what I did.

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So I haven't forgiven myself yet.

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I think that's why I have the twitch in my right eye.

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So

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that'll be there until that two week period is over

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and you can see that can be.

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Yeah, I hope so, too, because I've really been trying not to think about

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it and just acting like nothing happened

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and not to not to pile on that.

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And I apologize in advance, but at least it was your work stuff.

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Because if that had any personal mementos and that that that's divorce

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material right there, man, I'd be I'd be with your wife on this.

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That's, you know, that's, that's as close as it gets.

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I'm really hoping that it's just work stuff too.

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But as I said, I have a habit of backing up personal stuff, so you know, I'm, I,

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I've just not been thinking about it.

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Yeah, just,

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yeah.

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Fingers crossed.

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Fingers crossed for your map.

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And a good lesson there, you know, automation is great and it can help

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us and everything, but just, you know, look before you leap, I guess, when it

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comes to, okay, yeah, I'll get that.

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I'll clear that up now.

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Good luck with that, man.

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And also, listen, there's good luck.

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I know I just got, you know, I've talked about divorce, etc.

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That was a flippant comment.

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Good luck with that.

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Right.

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Thanks, man.

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All right.

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Are we ready for number two, Tony?

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Okay, let's go.

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Let's have a look what's going to pop up.

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Question number two.

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Oh!

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Now, I swear, listeners, this is one hundred percent random.

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I mean, Tony saw me hit the random Generator button, but yeah.

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So, okay, Tony, this is a perfect question as a follow up from question one.

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Do you ever want to just walk away from technology?

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Yes.

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For as long as possible, find the, I was lucky where I was, there was that

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sort of opportunity, you know, I could just get into a car, drive somewhere

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far off and just stay into the river, Ethiopia and not think about anything,

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but yes, I really felt like that.

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And I think I'm really going to maybe spend the next week detoxing.

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Yes, I want to.

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And what's your like what, what, what's the area?

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Because obviously the area you live in, you're in like a city, but what's it like?

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How far do you have to drive or?

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To get out of that to get into sort of just like, you know, good old wide

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open land and get away from everything.

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Okay, usually what I do is when I want to get away, I

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get out of the state entirely.

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And leaving Lagos state to Delta state is roughly 8 to 10

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hours if the roads are good.

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If the roads are horrible, that takes me like 12 to 13 hours.

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And the first thing I experience when I'm out of Lagos is the serenity of it.

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The other state, I think we, we cross about four states before I get to that

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state and it's the serenity is the fact that everything is a little slower.

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If people are getting up at 4 a.

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m.

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in Lagos to try to beat traffic, people are waking up at 7 o'clock and then

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just taking walks to their offices and right there in like 10 minutes.

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My sister stays in that state.

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So.

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While my mom when she passed away, that was also where she was buried.

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So I used to take the kids on holiday in the last two years, we'd go there,

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spend some time and just chill.

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I mean, I came back, even my wife was like, you're looking a lot

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better than when you left, but you were supposed to go work.

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Because what I went to do actually was I have conversations with pastors in the

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region over how they could use podcasting to amplify their messages because Delta

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state is one of those regions where churches really have a lot of activity.

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A lot of them pay for air time to run their shows on radio.

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But I was showing them that there was another way they could actually

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archive and make things happen.

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So my sis is like one of the leading pastors in the community there.

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She spoke to some of them and they came out, we had fun and there are

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about five or six podcasts launched that I'm really excited about.

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So I'll be going back again.

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And then, you know, taking up a new set of new set of participants.

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So it's it was fun.

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I did it for like two days and then I ended up spending a whole month, you know,

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out there just taking in the scenery.

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I had a few things to attend to regarding my mom's estate, but

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basically it was just chill.

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So that helped until the accident.

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And obviously you mentioned Lagos, that's in Nigeria, correct?

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And for our listeners.

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Yes, it is.

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Yes, it is.

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Southwest Nigeria.

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So for our listeners that aren't maybe aware of Nigeria, the

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African ecosystem you mentioned also the scenery, et cetera.

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How different is the state that you go to from, you know, from Lagos, for

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example, what's, what's the main appeal?

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Lagos is basically the commercial nerve center of the entire country.

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It was once the capital of the nation itself.

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So as a lot that goes on in Lagos, and sometimes you're being told if you're

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outside Lagos, if you're into tech, if you're into music, if you're into serious

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business, if you're not doing it in Lagos, then you're probably missing out.

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So there's, there's a chock hold.

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There's a massive population in Lagos, about 20 million.

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Upwards and counting.

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And then lots of facilities here.

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This is where all the main tech companies are nested, especially

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the international companies as well.

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This is where they all are.

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And then they branch out to all the states.

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So Lagos is the nerve center of the entire nation.

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If it's not happening in Lagos, people are like, are you serious?

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So, you know, that's basically it.

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That's basically it.

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And then everybody else is like, just like more laid back

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because it's not as industrialized.

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Maybe.

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Yeah, and I'm hoping that that changes because the truth is a lot of

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states have potential to actually grow when I was programs manager was a BFM.

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It was in another state in a number of states in the southeast.

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That's roughly 12 14 hours drive as well.

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And There was a lot of businesses, a lot of commerce there, the ebos you

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know, one of the major tribes of which I'm one are very industrial people.

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So you find that there's a lot that they do there, but they have to

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still ship that commerce to Lagos.

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So there's a lot going on in all the states that could work if

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there's a, how would I put it now?

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It does, it takes political will and then it takes, does take some will on

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the part of the people themselves to want to have that sort of what I call

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it an autonomy, but it's sort of control over what their own ideals should be.

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So there's plenty of potential.

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When I went to Anambra then, and I saw the kind of, Personal

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houses, people were building.

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I was shocked.

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I was like, the quality of these houses here are even better than the

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quality of some of the houses in Lagos.

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So there are pockets of individual brilliance in different places, but

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people still feel that the cluster and the community for success

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still has to be dictated by Lagos.

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And I hope all that changes real soon because, I had to get out of Lagos

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to really be like, you know what?

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I want to see what else is happening out there, but it's

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really just a mind state thing.

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People in Lagos are always in a hurry when they really shouldn't be.

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And I found out that, that, you know, the same amount of energy or even less

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I could put out in another state and still achieve some measure of success.

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It's the way I think it's the way I apply how I think.

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So I'm really hoping all the states open up, of course.

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Things that can improve that will be better roads, like I just said flying is

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really expensive these days, but that's usually the fastest way to get around.

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It's about 30 minutes, 45 minutes by air to each of these places.

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But if the railroads are better done, if the roads are improved, if the

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airports are better arranged and the local flights are more competitive,

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then I should, you know, we really should be seeing these things happen

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in all these other places as well.

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And I know when we spoke, I used to have another podcast.

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We were speaking in the green room before recording, and I used to have another

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podcast you know, kindly a guest on.

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And we spoke then about the infrastructure and, you know, the opportunities

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for, you know, African podcasting.

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But essentially, there's also a big opportunity for infrastructure, etc.

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With the right approach,

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the right approach really will be government policies, etc.

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Meeting people's needs as well.

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One of the things I've seen happen is there's a lot of fast thinking.

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There's a lot of innovative thinking in terms of tech, in

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terms of utilities and stuff.

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But the gap between the technology and access for the regular

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people is really Too wide.

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There are certain policies that have to be in place to make sure that

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people who need this technology and have access to this technology can

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actually function within the economy.

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We're still going through issues with power, for instance, and at

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this stage, we really shouldn't be having those kind of discussions

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all my life, nearly 46 years of it.

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We have this phrase called.

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Up NEPA.

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And it's a phrase you make or you scream or you shout when power returns

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after power has been out for a bit.

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All my kids know what that phrase is.

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It's a bit embarrassing these days.

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I've well, maybe power has improved a bit in my neighborhood,

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but it's also more expensive.

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So there are a lot of factors, economic, social socioeconomic and government

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policy wise that need to find a way to.

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Come together and make things work their workshops.

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I see a lot of workshops.

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I see a lot of seminars, government led, private infrastructure led.

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So there's a lot of talk.

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I don't see as much action, you know, matching up, but yes, government

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policies have to meet the people where they are so that access to these

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technologies really shouldn't be luxury.

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No, I hear you.

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I know.

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Not so much here.

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I mean, we're, we're fairly lucky, but we live in a little village

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and it can be a bit sketchy for transportation and all that kind of stuff.

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So I hear you on a smaller scale from this end, obviously.

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Alrighty.

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So question number three, let's hope it's not another technology one

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because that was, as I mentioned, that was one hundred percent random.

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So let's hit this next question Generator.

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Okay.

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So Tony, question number three, if you were home on a rainy Sunday afternoon.

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What movie would you most want to see on television?

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That's happened a lot.

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It will be classic.

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It would be a classic.

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And it's going to be funny when I mention it because it turned out

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to be one of my favorite movies.

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I'll say singing in the rain.

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Gene Kelly.

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Yes.

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Singing in the rain.

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Gene

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Kelly.

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Yeah.

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I saw it again recently.

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There had been an improvement on the, on the visuals.

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So it was digitally, digitally improved and it was just lovely.

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Introduced it to the family.

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My wife fell in love with it too.

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So it was great.

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Saw it a long time ago on British television when I was a kid.

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And then it ended up on cassette somehow.

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My mom brought it from one of her trips and I watched it till the tape.

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Yes, I did.

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So being able to see it again, you know, digitally improved.

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It was, it was exciting and I had to get the family to see too.

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So yes, maybe, yeah, singing in the rain,

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do you ever see that movie?

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I can't remember what it was called.

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But had Gene Kelly in it as well.

Danny: 00:17:09

And I love Gene Kelly.

Danny: 00:17:11

We used to watch like when I was a kid, my parents would always

Danny: 00:17:13

watch, you know, old movie.

Danny: 00:17:14

Well, there were less older than the old movies for me as a kid,

Danny: 00:17:18

like five, six year old boy.

Danny: 00:17:20

But we used to watch a lot of Gene Kelly movies and there was one that

Danny: 00:17:23

I remember where he did a dance routine with Jerry from Tom and Jerry.

Danny: 00:17:29

Really?

Danny: 00:17:30

Yeah.

Danny: 00:17:30

So they'd animated it and it was like so ahead of its time for

Danny: 00:17:34

mixing animation and live action.

Danny: 00:17:36

Yeah.

Danny: 00:17:36

And I can't remember if Tom was involved too, but Jerry was there and they

Danny: 00:17:41

did a whole dance routine and Gene Kelly was doing his like his kicks

Danny: 00:17:45

that he does and swinging around and.

Danny: 00:17:48

Jerry is ducking underneath you.

Danny: 00:17:50

It's amazing.

Danny: 00:17:51

It's so, so good.

Danny: 00:17:53

Yeah.

Danny: 00:17:53

Google that.

Danny: 00:17:54

Show it to your kids.

Danny: 00:17:54

I will.

Danny: 00:17:55

I will.

Danny: 00:17:55

Because it's just amazing.

Danny: 00:17:57

So why that move in particular?

Danny: 00:17:58

All of the classics that you could maybe pick?

Danny: 00:18:00

Why?

Danny: 00:18:01

Why that one do you think?

Tony: 00:18:02

I grew up watching a lot of classics and somehow I

Tony: 00:18:06

found myself doing that again.

Tony: 00:18:09

I'm doing a James Bond run.

Tony: 00:18:11

All over again.

Tony: 00:18:12

When I started watching James Bond as a kid Roger Moore was like

Tony: 00:18:16

everybody's favorite and he was the one more prominent on the screen.

Tony: 00:18:20

So I was excited to see him.

Tony: 00:18:21

And then there were arguments then as a kid that notion was

Tony: 00:18:25

was the much better James Bond.

Tony: 00:18:27

And then Timothy Dalton came and everybody was like, nah, he's too dark.

Tony: 00:18:31

It's not working.

Tony: 00:18:32

And Pierce Brosnan came and yeah, I was like, okay, not too bad.

Tony: 00:18:37

I liked Craig.

Tony: 00:18:38

Because he was different from everyone else, but seemed to

Tony: 00:18:43

have a bit of what Sean had.

Tony: 00:18:45

So I just told myself, you know what?

Tony: 00:18:47

Do this for yourself.

Tony: 00:18:48

Leave all the pundits alone, sit down and start watching

Tony: 00:18:50

everybody from the very beginning.

Tony: 00:18:52

So I started again.

Tony: 00:18:54

I started with Dr.

Tony: 00:18:55

No.

Tony: 00:18:56

I've done From Russia with Love.

Tony: 00:18:58

I'm about to do Goldfinger and If it wasn't singing in the rain, it'd

Tony: 00:19:03

probably be a James Bond movie, but I'm not sure which one yet because

Tony: 00:19:06

right now it's just brand new for me.

Tony: 00:19:09

And if it's not singing in the rain I have a thing for coming to America.

Tony: 00:19:13

There was a time I, I could actually lip sync the entire movie.

Tony: 00:19:18

So yeah, if it's not singing in the rain, then it's coming to America.

Danny: 00:19:22

That was an awesome movie.

Danny: 00:19:23

Do you ever watch, I wasn't so sold on the second one, the sequel.

Danny: 00:19:26

Well, what about you?

Tony: 00:19:27

No, I wasn't either.

Tony: 00:19:28

I wasn't either.

Tony: 00:19:29

I don't think it was necessary.

Tony: 00:19:31

The only thing I looked out for doors to see how well put those

Tony: 00:19:36

who survived, you know, looked.

Tony: 00:19:39

So it was kind of nice to see James Earl Jones again.

Tony: 00:19:42

Still still 40 with that smile of his John Amos really aged.

Tony: 00:19:48

It was just good to see Eddie Murphy do something again.

Tony: 00:19:52

I don't know.

Tony: 00:19:53

I don't know what it is about him, but.

Tony: 00:19:55

I actually find myself looking forward to Beverly Hills Cop, Axel F.

Tony: 00:19:59

I like the fact that he can still bring something old, make it his, and

Tony: 00:20:05

we'll still love him for it, even if we don't enjoy the entire package,

Tony: 00:20:08

but we will love Eddie Murphy in it.

Tony: 00:20:10

So I think that worked for me.

Tony: 00:20:12

Coming to America was basically just seeing Eddie again, and

Tony: 00:20:16

just loving Eddie, you know.

Tony: 00:20:18

For what he did, of course, you know, scene two, I had to bring

Tony: 00:20:23

back one for the kids to understand, you know, what really happened.

Tony: 00:20:27

And then there was a lot more in one, especially with the multiple

Tony: 00:20:31

roles that Eddie played that they didn't think, you know, he was like,

Tony: 00:20:35

Oh, you mean Eddie Murphy used to do all this before these new cats?

Tony: 00:20:38

I'm like, yes.

Tony: 00:20:40

He used to, he set the pace,

Danny: 00:20:43

the, the barber character in the first movie.

Tony: 00:20:46

Oh, it was

Danny: 00:20:47

amazing.

Danny: 00:20:48

Amazing.

Danny: 00:20:49

And that blew.

Danny: 00:20:49

I knew he did a lot of characters, but that blew me away when I found

Danny: 00:20:52

out that was actually Eddie Murphy because I thought it was someone else.

Danny: 00:20:55

And then obviously the credits come up and I thought, wow.

Danny: 00:20:58

So, so obviously, so we hear it here.

Danny: 00:21:00

Tony loves the rain when he's got these long drives from

Danny: 00:21:03

Lagos out to another state.

Danny: 00:21:05

He loves it raining outside so he can start singing Gene Kelly songs.

Danny: 00:21:09

Singing

Tony: 00:21:10

in the rain, just singing in the rain.

Danny: 00:21:15

So we're now up to almost 80%.

Danny: 00:21:17

We're getting through this like the old First We Feast show.

Danny: 00:21:20

Okay, so let's bring up question number four.

Danny: 00:21:22

Let's hit that random Generator, Tony, and see where we go with this one.

Danny: 00:21:26

Ooh, that is an interesting one.

Danny: 00:21:28

Okay, Tony, question four.

Danny: 00:21:30

If you had unlimited resources, how would you live your life?

Tony: 00:21:35

I think I have a bit of a voyager in me.

Tony: 00:21:38

So I would travel.

Tony: 00:21:40

As often as I can, I would go to places, learn new things, eat new

Tony: 00:21:48

food, and just keep traveling.

Tony: 00:21:52

I think I have that in me.

Tony: 00:21:54

Yeah, I'll travel, travel the world.

Danny: 00:21:57

What would be your top three places, do you think?

Tony: 00:21:59

It will be somewhere in the Caribbean's first of

Tony: 00:22:02

all, I might do Jamaica first.

Tony: 00:22:05

But there are also countries that I think I might be interested

Tony: 00:22:08

in, like Guyana, Barbados.

Tony: 00:22:11

I have a friend in Barbados, so I'm hoping he would have a reason

Tony: 00:22:14

to invite me over, but I will do the Caribbean's because of the.

Tony: 00:22:19

Of the connections with the motherland, kind of I'm curious to know how some

Tony: 00:22:25

of our cultures and languages were able to evolve over the years from

Tony: 00:22:30

the slave trade era to now and you know, I used to hear a lot of stories

Tony: 00:22:33

because my mom, my mom traveled a lot, so I'd hear stories about how some

Tony: 00:22:37

languages exist as So I'm curious.

Tony: 00:22:39

Other languages that are very similar to the languages we speak here.

Tony: 00:22:44

So I'd like to like, see you know, how that happened and how they keep up with

Tony: 00:22:48

it and how people are able to live with a lot less, you know, it's almost as if

Tony: 00:22:54

that people who live in those places and who find joy in the little things are not

Tony: 00:22:59

bothered with the kind of things those of us exposed to too much technology,

Tony: 00:23:03

you know, are bothered with and the air, the water, the food, the people.

Tony: 00:23:09

Okay.

Tony: 00:23:09

Yeah, I, I would really love to travel the world.

Danny: 00:23:13

And would you, if you had unlimited resources, obviously

Danny: 00:23:16

money's going to come into that.

Danny: 00:23:18

Would you buy any steak in Arsenal?

Tony: 00:23:20

Oh, definitely.

Tony: 00:23:22

That's, that's a problem.

Tony: 00:23:23

In fact, we've been having a conversation in the family.

Tony: 00:23:25

The kids want to go see the stadium.

Tony: 00:23:27

So I'm really hoping I can make that work as soon as possible.

Tony: 00:23:31

Definitely.

Tony: 00:23:32

And if I can get, you know, Joey to, you know, be in the academy as early

Tony: 00:23:36

as possible, I will get him up there.

Tony: 00:23:38

Definitely.

Tony: 00:23:39

No, that's, that's a top priority.

Tony: 00:23:41

It is.

Danny: 00:23:42

Awesome.

Danny: 00:23:43

And then fingers crossed you can get out to it because it looks, I've never been

Danny: 00:23:45

myself, but it looks an amazing stadium.

Danny: 00:23:47

That's one of my bucket lists is to get to the new Emirates.

Tony: 00:23:50

It does.

Tony: 00:23:50

I had my niece go visit, but she's not an Arsenal fan.

Tony: 00:23:53

She's a Chelsea fan.

Tony: 00:23:54

I got

Danny: 00:23:55

to work on that one.

Danny: 00:23:58

Okay.

Tony: 00:23:59

She's, she's, she's beyond me now.

Tony: 00:24:00

I can't, I can't do anything about that.

Tony: 00:24:02

She got that from, you know, my mom who was a Chelsea fan too.

Tony: 00:24:06

So

Danny: 00:24:07

You're allowed one, a loud one in the family.

Danny: 00:24:10

We are.

Danny: 00:24:11

Okay, Tony, we're almost in the home, well, we are in the home

Danny: 00:24:14

straight, let me correct myself.

Danny: 00:24:15

We're coming up to question number five, you ready to take this one out, mate?

Danny: 00:24:18

Okay.

Danny: 00:24:19

All right, let's see what we got.

Danny: 00:24:21

Okay, I like this and I think I know the answer, but I'm

Danny: 00:24:23

going to ask you anyway, mate.

Danny: 00:24:25

Are you, question number five, are you willing to give the shirt on your

Danny: 00:24:29

back to someone who needs it the most?

Tony: 00:24:32

Definitely.

Tony: 00:24:32

Yes.

Tony: 00:24:33

Yes.

Tony: 00:24:33

I've been in situations where I've had to do that.

Tony: 00:24:36

I've also been in situations where people have done that for

Tony: 00:24:38

me, and it's a definite yes.

Tony: 00:24:41

It's not, it's, it's, it's a shirt, you know, it's a shirt and so what

Tony: 00:24:47

you really needs it then why not?

Tony: 00:24:49

Yes, it's the simplest form of kindness.

Tony: 00:24:52

You can actually even exhibit.

Tony: 00:24:54

I, I think my body's not too bad.

Tony: 00:24:56

I have a dad, but, so I can walk around a bit without a shit,

Tony: 00:24:58

without feeling too embarrassed.

Tony: 00:25:00

I've earned it, so, yeah.

Danny: 00:25:02

Yeah, I'm wondering, do you feel we, we talked about technology,

Danny: 00:25:06

obviously, earlier in the episode.

Danny: 00:25:08

Do you feel that technology is maybe reducing people willing to do that,

Danny: 00:25:13

or do you think that we're only seeing more of the worst behaviour in people

Danny: 00:25:16

and there's still amazing people out there, we just, because clicks on

Danny: 00:25:19

social media are driven by, you know, negativity do you feel that's something

Danny: 00:25:24

that's an issue overall in the world, or do you think there's still kindness

Danny: 00:25:26

in the world, like, majorly kindness?

Tony: 00:25:29

I think there's a lot of kindness in the world.

Tony: 00:25:31

It's just not being recorded as much.

Tony: 00:25:33

It's just not being amplified as much.

Tony: 00:25:36

Unfortunately, we're in a situation where virality, you know, people want

Tony: 00:25:40

to go viral for all the wrong reasons.

Tony: 00:25:43

And unfortunately, the The power of the technology at the tips of people,

Tony: 00:25:46

you know the power of the technology we have sort of appeals to our worst

Tony: 00:25:51

and, you know, our worst habits.

Tony: 00:25:53

I'm hoping that can change over time.

Tony: 00:25:55

So I think it's one step at a time.

Tony: 00:25:57

I think people who do good should really start amplifying the good they do.

Tony: 00:26:02

There's a lot of modesty and humility until it gets lost in conversations.

Tony: 00:26:07

For instance I'm dealing with a challenge here in Nigeria.

Tony: 00:26:11

Every ridiculous utterance or every seemingly stupid point of view is

Tony: 00:26:18

quickly amplified as a podcast.

Tony: 00:26:22

And then we see like 30 second clips of talking heads, so called influencers,

Tony: 00:26:28

celebrities making irrational comments.

Tony: 00:26:31

And, you know, people are like, go check out the rest of the Episode and all

Tony: 00:26:35

that, and for a lot of people who don't know what podcasting is about, that is

Tony: 00:26:39

the introduction to what podcasting is.

Tony: 00:26:41

So I end up having to encounter people on timelines who are like,

Tony: 00:26:45

Oh, you know, podcasts are the worst.

Tony: 00:26:48

We really should do something about the podcasting industry.

Tony: 00:26:50

And I'm like, excuse me, what you saw.

Tony: 00:26:55

Was a clip of somebody expressing himself or herself, speaking what

Tony: 00:27:02

in their own terms is their truth.

Tony: 00:27:04

The only thing is they did it using a platform and you discovered

Tony: 00:27:08

that platform via social media, which is a platform on its own.

Tony: 00:27:12

You do recognize that these are the kind of things that the platform you're on.

Tony: 00:27:17

Chooses to amplify most times it doesn't mean that represents

Tony: 00:27:21

everything we do in the space.

Tony: 00:27:23

So there's an opportunity for me and hopefully, you know, some others, if

Tony: 00:27:27

people are willing to listen to educate on the good things that happen in podcasts.

Tony: 00:27:33

One of the things I enjoy doing with my newsletter is going out of my

Tony: 00:27:36

way to look for stories of people doing incredible things and then

Tony: 00:27:41

talking about them on podcasts.

Tony: 00:27:42

I want people to know that these are the stories that exist.

Tony: 00:27:46

Anywhere else in the world, Dave Jackson reacted one of those days

Tony: 00:27:49

where he was like, he doesn't know where Tony finds his stories, but

Tony: 00:27:52

this is the one reason he subscribes to the, you know, to the newsletter.

Tony: 00:27:56

And I felt that, and that's also what I want to do with the local podcasters here.

Tony: 00:27:59

I'm encouraging a lot of them.

Tony: 00:28:01

Don't be afraid to amplify what you're talking about.

Tony: 00:28:04

If it makes sense, let me know, too.

Tony: 00:28:06

I will tell the world on your behalf if you're too scared.

Tony: 00:28:09

So.

Tony: 00:28:10

You know, yes, but it's a tool at the end of the day.

Tony: 00:28:13

Technology is a tool.

Tony: 00:28:15

How do you use it?

Tony: 00:28:16

How are we using it?

Tony: 00:28:18

Choosing to use it.

Tony: 00:28:19

So, you know, for me I mean, I'm talking to you how many rivers away?

Tony: 00:28:26

And this is what technology has done for me.

Tony: 00:28:28

I don't think there's any other way we could have met if it wasn't for one, the

Tony: 00:28:33

fact that we both love podcasting and two, we found each other on social media.

Tony: 00:28:37

So there are good things to this.

Tony: 00:28:39

Let's just keep amplifying those kinds of stories.

Tony: 00:28:41

And over time you know, those negative ones will be suppressed.

Danny: 00:28:45

And I think that's the important thing, like you mentioned there is

Danny: 00:28:47

also a lot of negativity and a lot of lies and, you know, alternative

Danny: 00:28:51

facts of certain politician in the U.

Danny: 00:28:52

S.

Danny: 00:28:53

like to call it and it's, it is important to get both sides and yeah, we might

Danny: 00:28:57

not agree with what's being said, but it's important to make sure that that's

Danny: 00:29:00

countered with other opinions and then, you know, Hopefully educate people so

Danny: 00:29:04

they can make educated guesses, education, educated decisions around what they

Danny: 00:29:09

should be looking and listening to, etc.

Danny: 00:29:11

So I think that's a great example of, you know, what technology can and can't do.

Danny: 00:29:15

But yeah, I like that.

Danny: 00:29:16

I like that a lot.

Danny: 00:29:18

So speaking of, I've put you through the ringer here.

Danny: 00:29:20

That's been an interesting five questions that went here

Danny: 00:29:23

and there and there and there.

Danny: 00:29:25

So I enjoyed this episode a lot, mate.

Danny: 00:29:27

In fairness to my guests, I always allow, allow, that's a horrible word, it's

Danny: 00:29:32

like putting me up as a dictator, you, you can ask me one question, I always

Danny: 00:29:37

love having my guests ask me one random question to balance the, the, the ratio

Danny: 00:29:42

of the question, so, Mr Tony Doe, what's your random question for my, myself?

Tony: 00:29:47

My random question is Is the Acolyte really a good series?

Danny: 00:29:51

It's it's different.

Danny: 00:29:54

I, I enjoy it.

Danny: 00:29:55

I, I, I pause there because it's funny.

Danny: 00:29:58

I was like I think a couple of, on the first episode with my guest Fuzz,

Danny: 00:30:01

Fuzz Martin, we were on about Star Wars and the Acolyte, et cetera.

Danny: 00:30:04

So it just made me pause there because I was thinking back

Danny: 00:30:06

to that, that conversation.

Danny: 00:30:08

I enjoy the Acolyte.

Danny: 00:30:09

It's, it is very different.

Danny: 00:30:11

It's a more.

Danny: 00:30:13

paced story so it's not, you have to realistically invest yourself into it

Danny: 00:30:17

being slow, slow build up and the pacing can be off a bit because the episodes,

Danny: 00:30:22

the first two episodes were pretty short like 30 minutes, less than 30 minutes.

Danny: 00:30:25

I think the most recent one, episode four, was only, if you take out the intro

Danny: 00:30:29

and the outro credits and that, it was only 19 minutes long, which is crazy.

Danny: 00:30:33

Woah.

Danny: 00:30:34

The third one was really good, my favourite so far, but it's getting

Danny: 00:30:37

a lot of hate online and I, I feel, I'm a, I'm an original Star Wars fan.

Danny: 00:30:40

I went to see the first movie as a boy in 1978 in the UK, so I've grown

Danny: 00:30:44

up with Star Wars and I'm a firm believer that, It's for everyone.

Danny: 00:30:49

And if you like some parts, you like that.

Danny: 00:30:51

If you don't like some parts, you don't like that.

Danny: 00:30:52

But the amount of hate that is seen on a pure vitriol goes back to your point that

Danny: 00:30:57

people have a platform and a voice and they use that to put down where they can.

Danny: 00:31:02

That clip's not for everyone, but I enjoy it.

Danny: 00:31:04

I think it's doing a good job of expanding the lore behind the force,

Danny: 00:31:07

but that's also what's upsetting people.

Danny: 00:31:09

Oh, well, you can't do that because the force has been around for centuries.

Danny: 00:31:12

Blah, blah.

Danny: 00:31:12

Don't call it something else.

Danny: 00:31:14

So, yeah, I would.

Danny: 00:31:15

If you enjoy Star Wars and you enjoy.

Danny: 00:31:17

Storytelling that builds.

Danny: 00:31:20

Let me clarify that.

Danny: 00:31:21

Storytelling builds because it does need a bit more investment.

Danny: 00:31:24

I feel you'd enjoy The Acolyte.

Danny: 00:31:25

It's not super loads of action so far.

Danny: 00:31:28

Maybe it will be in the second half of the series, but I, I would.

Danny: 00:31:32

I would recommend it.

Tony: 00:31:33

I'll check it out as soon as I can.

Tony: 00:31:34

I just came off Bad Batch.

Tony: 00:31:36

So, you know, I'm trying to give myself some time, you know, soaking it all in.

Tony: 00:31:40

I really, really enjoyed Bad Batch.

Tony: 00:31:42

I did.

Tony: 00:31:43

I did.

Danny: 00:31:43

Yeah, Bad Batch.

Danny: 00:31:44

I love Bad Batch.

Danny: 00:31:45

That was Star Wars at its best.

Danny: 00:31:48

I feel like characters you really cared for, even though they're animated, you

Danny: 00:31:51

seriously cared for the characters.

Danny: 00:31:53

Great storytelling.

Danny: 00:31:54

And it closed really well.

Danny: 00:31:56

I thought the finale, really.

Danny: 00:31:58

Yeah.

Danny: 00:31:58

closed it.

Tony: 00:31:59

Beautiful.

Tony: 00:32:00

What's the best part of it?

Danny: 00:32:02

It'll be interesting to see if Omega pops up down the

Danny: 00:32:04

line in live action, maybe, or any of the Bad Batch guys.

Tony: 00:32:07

I just hope they won't.

Tony: 00:32:08

Nah, let them leave it that way.

Tony: 00:32:11

I kind of like it.

Tony: 00:32:13

I don't know, because how would the real life versions really look?

Tony: 00:32:17

Let's not forget that each and every one of them is being

Tony: 00:32:20

voiced by the same person.

Danny: 00:32:22

That is true.

Tony: 00:32:22

Yeah.

Tony: 00:32:23

So that's, that's insane.

Tony: 00:32:26

That's insane.

Tony: 00:32:27

And, you know, I really, I'm trying to study his style and, you know,

Tony: 00:32:30

because even though it's the same voices, there's still a nuance to

Tony: 00:32:33

each and every one of the characters.

Tony: 00:32:35

And that's, that's a very rare skill.

Tony: 00:32:37

You know, you sound the same, but.

Tony: 00:32:39

You're pulling your words in a different way to help us understand that it is

Tony: 00:32:44

really someone else, you know, talking.

Tony: 00:32:47

So it was a great production, great cast, great talent.

Tony: 00:32:51

It was amazing.

Danny: 00:32:53

And speaking of amazing, Tony, you have been an amazing guest, my friend.

Danny: 00:32:56

Always enjoy chatting to you.

Danny: 00:32:58

For people that want to check out your podcast, what you do in media,

Danny: 00:33:02

the newsletter, anything at all to do with Tony Doe, where's the best place

Danny: 00:33:06

to connect, find you online, etc.

Tony: 00:33:09

I think I'm busy on LinkedIn.

Tony: 00:33:11

I'm busy on LinkedIn and anywhere else these days.

Tony: 00:33:14

I don't know if it's an age thing, but maybe I sort of find it hard to cope

Tony: 00:33:20

with the pace of Twitter these days.

Tony: 00:33:22

And Facebook got on my nerves, so I left them alone.

Tony: 00:33:24

So Yeah, LinkedIn Tony Doe or Tony Onwuchekwa, if you search

Tony: 00:33:28

for Into the Podverse on LinkedIn, it should pop up by name as well.

Tony: 00:33:32

So and the newsletter is Into the Podverse, it's available on Substack.

Tony: 00:33:36

If you type in Into the Podverse with Tony Doe, you will see the podcast pop

Tony: 00:33:40

up, you will see the newsletter pop up.

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As well, so yeah, and then if you subscribe, you know,

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you join my email list.

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You'll never miss an episode.

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You'll never miss an addition of a nicely curated nicely curated podcast stories,

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things going on involving innovation, challenges and opportunities in a podcast

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and space from an African perspective, most times, but we're global now.

Tony: 00:34:04

So, you know, I speak to as many people as I can.

Tony: 00:34:07

And yes, Danny's on the podcast as well.

Tony: 00:34:09

So I'm going to pull up some old episodes during the week to remind people that

Tony: 00:34:12

Danny has popped into the podcast too.

Danny: 00:34:15

I have, and I appreciate that.

Danny: 00:34:17

And I would, yeah, I would recommend much like Dave Jackson, who's a solid guy.

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He knows what he's talking about when it comes to podcasting.

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I would highly recommend subscribing to Tony's newsletter.

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As very informative as Tony mentions.

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A lot from the African perspective, which is awesome because it does

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educate the rest of the world on a space that we rarely hear about,

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but it's a fantastic resource.

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So I highly recommend that and I will obviously put the links to

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all of that in the show notes.

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So whatever app you're listening on, be sure to check the show notes.

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I'll link straight out to Tony and where you can find him.

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Thanks for listening to Five Random Questions.

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And if you feel like leaving a review, well that would make me happier

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than that time Archie Gemmell scored a wonder goal against Holland at

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the 1978 World Cup for Scotland.

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Scotland don't have many great moments at tournaments, so you can imagine the

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happiness levels I'm on about here.

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But seriously, if you wanted to leave a review or a recommended podcast to

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your friends, that would make my day.

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Until the next time, keep asking those questions.