Red Wine Shame, Homophobic Blindsiding, and More with Kattie Laur
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Kattie Laur is an award-winning freelance podcast producer and writer based in Brantford, Ontario, who has a life-long love of public radio and has been clinging to the podcasting space since 2013. Kattie writes the biweekly newsletter for the Canadian podcasting ecosystem, Pod the North, whose regular readers include many media executives from the likes of CBC Podcasts, Spotify and Apple Podcasts. She's also just wrapped the first season of her debut podcast, Canardian, which took Canadian podcasters back to their roots to share gossip about their hometowns.
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Kattie: And my parents came into my room and they're like, we know how bad you feel.
Speaker:Kattie: We're not going to like, I hope you've learned your lesson kind of thing.
Speaker:Kattie: They didn't like harp on me too much. They just kind of opened the door and
Speaker:Kattie: were like, we're very disappointed in you. And we know how bad you feel.
Speaker:Kattie: So you're going to have to deal with this and see your grandma today.
Speaker:Danny: Hi, and welcome to Five Random Questions, the show where every question is an adventure.
Speaker:Danny: I'm your host, Danny Brown, and each week I'll be asking my guests five questions
Speaker:Danny: created by a random question generator.
Speaker:Danny: The guest has no idea what the questions are, and neither do I,
Speaker:Danny: which means this could go either way.
Speaker:Danny: So sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's episode.
Speaker:Danny: Today's guest is Kattie Laur, an award-winning freelance podcast producer and
Speaker:Danny: writer based in Brantford, Ontario. That's in Canada, by the way.
Speaker:Danny: She has a lifelong love of public radio and has been clinging to the podcasting space since 2013.
Speaker:Danny: Kattie
Speaker:Danny: writes a bi-weekly newsletter for the Canadian podcasting ecosystem,
Speaker:Danny: Pod the North, whose regular readers include many media executives from the
Speaker:Danny: likes of CBC Podcasts, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.
Speaker:Danny: She's also just wrapped the first season of her debut podcast,
Speaker:Danny: Canardian, which took Canadian podcasters back to the roots to share gossip about their hometowns.
Speaker:Danny: So Kattie, welcome to Five Random Questions.
Speaker:Kattie: Thank you so much for having me, Danny. I'm so excited.
Speaker:Danny: You're very welcome. And I feel obviously we'll get into our five questions
Speaker:Danny: shortly, but I feel this may be the most important question of the day and that
Speaker:Danny: is how many zucchinis have you been given by friends and family?
Speaker:Kattie: I haven't been given any yet, but I have definitely been doling them out.
Speaker:Kattie: I have a zucchini plant in my backyard that is producing like crazy.
Speaker:Kattie: So I am the person sneaking them into everybody's cars and into everybody's
Speaker:Kattie: purses. You know, zucchinis galore.
Speaker:Danny: And it's, I mean, you mentioned on Twitter or X, if you want to call it X,
Speaker:Danny: you want to be proper and, you know, go down that road.
Speaker:Danny: But you did mention that this is the season. So, you know, you're warning everybody
Speaker:Danny: to look out for zucchinis.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah. Look out for zucchinis in your passenger car seat. People be sneaking them everywhere.
Speaker:Danny: They be sneaking them. I'm going to use that on a t-shirt. They be sneaking them everywhere.
Speaker:Kattie: Zucchinis be sneaking.
Speaker:Danny: I like it. That could be like a little gif or a meme or something.
Speaker:Danny: And I mentioned there, you've just wrapped the first season of Canardian,
Speaker:Danny: which funnily enough is your debut podcast.
Speaker:Danny: Obviously you've been in the podcasting space for a while, but this is your
Speaker:Danny: own debut podcast. So how do you find that?
Speaker:Kattie: I am loving it. It's so relaxed.
Speaker:Kattie: I think making my own podcast for just myself and doing whatever I want on it. It's been really nice.
Speaker:Kattie: I don't feel that pressure to do anything as a people pleaser for other people.
Speaker:Kattie: It just comes down to me and what I'm capable of.
Speaker:Kattie: So I have been having a great time with it and I'm already in the works working
Speaker:Kattie: on season two. So stay tuned.
Speaker:Danny: Awesome. And it's a real interesting concept. Like you say, you take your guests
Speaker:Danny: back to their hometown and their roots and you talk about some of the gossip from there.
Speaker:Danny: So I'm curious, of all the episodes that you had and all the guests that you
Speaker:Danny: had on and shared some amazing breaking news, if you like, it was pretty cool to hear.
Speaker:Danny: What was the most outlandish or
Speaker:Danny: unexpected fact that came from any of your guests about their hometowns?
Speaker:Kattie: Oh, man.
Speaker:Kattie: There is so much wild stuff that came up about it.
Speaker:Kattie: I think talking to Niko Stratus about her hometown of Whitehorse was really
Speaker:Kattie: interesting because I really have no context about what goes on in the northern hemisphere of Canada.
Speaker:Kattie: And talking to her about the Sour Toe cocktail, which I only heard like a little
Speaker:Kattie: bit about and was more familiar with Screechin, which is a East Coast thing in Canada.
Speaker:Kattie: But the sour talk, Sour Toe cocktail for anyone who
Speaker:Kattie: isn't familiar is essentially you go up to Whitehorse, and
Speaker:Kattie: they have a preserved human toe that they
Speaker:Kattie: put in a shot glass along with a liquor of your
Speaker:Kattie: choosing. And you have to drink it, and the toe has
Speaker:Kattie: to touch your lips and then you've been initiated into coming to Whitehorse,
Speaker:Kattie: and if you eat the toe you get a massive fine. But there have have been people
Speaker:Kattie: who come in with the money and slam it on the bar and just eat the toe and there's
Speaker:Kattie: a variety of different toes like it's so nuts it's so nuts.
Speaker:Danny: And that's the thing, I mean a, the the whole concept of the toe. I know like, you can
Speaker:Danny: do that with like um worms or whatever and you know um tequila if you want to
Speaker:Danny: do it properly you know the the proper way for tequila, but a toe like a physical toe being...
Speaker:Kattie: A human toe.
Speaker:Danny: But people willing to put that in their mouth and pay for the experience it just what.
Speaker:Kattie: No i would never do that i would never that's.
Speaker:Danny: It i mean if they did so if you i mean if they swallow it what's the process
Speaker:Danny: there do you wait for this person to come back after nature's taken its course?
Speaker:Kattie: No that's the thing, there's a variety of toes so people apparently, like I guess
Speaker:Kattie: locals who pass away will sign a waiver to be like you can have my toe next like.
Speaker:Danny: I don't know, Canadians
Speaker:Kattie: They try not to get people to eat the toe that's why the fine is there, because
Speaker:Kattie: if you eat it then they run out of toes and human toes are hard to come by i guess so.
Speaker:Danny: There you go listeners if you've got a penchant for seeing what a dead person's
Speaker:Danny: toe tastes like when mixed with your beverage of choice you know where to go
Speaker:Danny: and hit Kattie up she can give you some tips on the best recipes i'm sure.
Speaker:Kattie: Whitehorse, Yukon.
Speaker:Danny: Awesome. So, so Kattie, as is our want, we are on Five Random Questions.
Speaker:Danny: We have two there to start with, so that's a bonus.
Speaker:Danny: So you get seven random questions today, I guess.
Speaker:Danny: Anywho, let's see what the random question generator brings up.
Speaker:Danny: Just a reminder to our listeners, as always, these are 100% random questions.
Speaker:Danny: I've never seen them before. Kattie definitely hasn't seen them before.
Speaker:Danny: And we'll just see where this takes us.
Speaker:Danny: All right, Kattie, I like this one. Question one. When you're old or older.
Speaker:Danny: Old. Now I'm going to go old, because you're not old. You're not even older
Speaker:Danny: at the moment. Kattie, when you're old, what do you think children will ask you to tell stories about?
Speaker:Kattie: Oh my God, this is such a deep question. I have to really think about this.
Speaker:Kattie: I mean, I guess the worst case answer is snow and winter and maybe skiing.
Speaker:Kattie: Actually, that might be my answer to this because growing up,
Speaker:Kattie: I did ski racing all throughout my early teens and late teens and traveled around
Speaker:Kattie: Ontario to different ski races and got to go to different hills.
Speaker:Kattie: So I don't know. The ski season is already in decline. So I think maybe some
Speaker:Kattie: kids might be asking me about winter sports about where it was, and I probably
Speaker:Kattie: would end up telling them about winter sports too just because I can't help it I love winter sports.
Speaker:Danny: I wonder if kids will even have snow when that's
Speaker:Kattie: I wonder.
Speaker:Danny: I mean when I'm older kids will still have snow because I'm old now so older is
Speaker:Danny: probably like two months away! But yeah I just, I do wonder like you say I know
Speaker:Danny: that the Canadian snow and skiing scene has been really impacted,
Speaker:Danny: you know, by the warmer climate that's been, you know, affecting everything.
Speaker:Danny: So yeah, so you mentioned ski racing. So were you a competitive skier then or
Speaker:Danny: was it competitions that you entered?
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah, I was like a semi-competitive racer. So I wasn't like the top of my team by any means.
Speaker:Kattie: I skied out of a ski club called the Milton Heights Racing Club,
Speaker:Kattie: just in in Milton, Ontario.
Speaker:Kattie: And that took place at a hill called Glen Eden.
Speaker:Kattie: And Glen Eden is a pretty small hill just off of the escarpment here in Ontario.
Speaker:Kattie: And probably takes you about 30 seconds to ski down and about 15 minutes to
Speaker:Kattie: go up on the chairlift. It took forever.
Speaker:Kattie: So yeah, the Milton Heights Racing Club was a part of, I guess,
Speaker:Kattie: an entire Ontario racing club competition.
Speaker:Kattie: So I would go to other different clubs around Ontario usually every weekend and go do a race.
Speaker:Kattie: And races were a variety of either a slalom race course or a Super G race course,
Speaker:Kattie: which were either just depends on how close the gates are all together.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah, and I did that throughout all of my teen years. And it was super fun going
Speaker:Kattie: to hanging out with my teen friends at different hotels across the province
Speaker:Kattie: and going to ski races the next day.
Speaker:Kattie: And I think by grade 12, I really wasn't, I wasn't expecting to continue racing after I graduated.
Speaker:Kattie: So I was just taking it easy and hanging out with my friends. It was, it was great.
Speaker:Danny: And you still ski now then? You still get up to any resorts,
Speaker:Danny: et cetera? Because Ontario's got some amazing ones, right?
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah, I still ski when I can. It's been a little bit tricky over the last few
Speaker:Kattie: years, but my partner is a snowboarder.
Speaker:Kattie: So we've been trying to go up skiing and going to Blue Mountain in Ontario,
Speaker:Kattie: which is like sort of the biggest one Ontario has to offer.
Speaker:Kattie: But yeah, the ski season has just been really awful the last couple of years.
Speaker:Kattie: So we just haven't been able to like the timing just hasn't really worked out
Speaker:Kattie: for us. So hoping to get back on the snow this year at some point. We'll see.
Speaker:Danny: And I guess if the worst comes to the worst, if you ever find a severed toe
Speaker:Danny: because it's been frozen in the snow, you know where to take it.
Speaker:Kattie: Yep.
Speaker:Kattie: Just go over to the Yukon and find some snow there.
Speaker:Danny: Perfect. Perfect. So what would you tell kids, do you think?
Speaker:Danny: What would you tell them about your time as a teen or just in skiing in general
Speaker:Danny: and why it's such a cool thing to do?
Speaker:Kattie: I don't know. I think I would maybe talk to them about, I think I would maybe
Speaker:Kattie: tell them about my just experience as a teenager and a kid doing competition sports.
Speaker:Kattie: I think it's such a fun part of life if you have the ability to do it.
Speaker:Kattie: You make so many more friends outside of school.
Speaker:Kattie: This was, if I was ending up in basically my exact parents shoes,
Speaker:Kattie: I would probably be telling children that you don't have to be a copycat of your friends at school.
Speaker:Kattie: You can make friends in other places and find people that you really get along
Speaker:Kattie: with in a variety of different places to figure out who you really are.
Speaker:Kattie: So I think skiing was such a great opportunity for me to be a part of a team
Speaker:Kattie: and meet people outside of my hometown because people came from kind of across
Speaker:Kattie: the Halton region to come to my ski place.
Speaker:Kattie: So, yeah, I think that was a big part of me finding independence, was just making
Speaker:Kattie: friends in a variety of different places.
Speaker:Kattie: And I think team sports are a big, big part of doing that as a kid.
Speaker:Danny: No, definitely. And hopefully kids will still be able to enjoy snow,
Speaker:Danny: you know, when they're a bit older, and you're telling them and regaling them
Speaker:Danny: of these tales. So that'd be awesome to hear, for sure.
Speaker:Kattie: And if they can't, they can do my other winter sport, which was speed skating,
Speaker:Kattie: which will take place indoors in a ski arena, or a skating arena,
Speaker:Kattie: which hopefully will be still around in a number of years.
Speaker:Danny: Yeah, I think they're still popular. Where we live, we have a little outdoor
Speaker:Danny: skating rink that they put together.
Speaker:Danny: So the community puts that together every winter. And that's getting used all
Speaker:Danny: the time by the local kids, etc. So that's good to see.
Speaker:Kattie: Amazing.
Speaker:Danny: Definitely. all righty so that was an interesting one to kick the old episode
Speaker:Danny: off with yeah, let's see where we go from here. Question number two - what's something
Speaker:Danny: that you've tried that you'll never ever try again?
Speaker:Kattie: Oh, these are such hard questions! Um, I immediately thought about food items but
Speaker:Kattie: i'm I'm not a very picky person.
Speaker:Kattie: You know what? If I can get really, really real about this, I think ecstasy.
Speaker:Kattie: I've tried ecstasy before a couple of times in my early 20s,
Speaker:Kattie: and it was an experience, but I don't think I will ever do it again.
Speaker:Kattie: It is the worst that... People will try and convince you to do these types of
Speaker:Kattie: drugs and tell you, hey, there's no hangover.
Speaker:Kattie: It's great. It's the happiest you've ever felt in your life.
Speaker:Kattie: And while you will feel very happy that night, the next day,
Speaker:Kattie: I thought I was going to die.
Speaker:Kattie: Straight up, it was the worst feeling of all time and definitely not worth it. So I would say...
Speaker:Kattie: I wouldn't do any drugs other than weed, if I'm going to be totally honest.
Speaker:Danny: No, I hear you. I mean, I was like, and I've never really shared this before
Speaker:Danny: either. So you're getting on about with me here as well. So kudos there.
Speaker:Danny: But yeah, I was like, I think 31, 32, I think, back in the UK.
Speaker:Danny: And I never really tried any hard drugs. The main thing I tried was weed,
Speaker:Danny: like you say. Seemed fairly popular.
Speaker:Danny: And a bunch of friends said, so we're going to this rave down in Manchester.
Speaker:Danny: Do you want to come? so I thought yeah cool I've never been to a rave.
Speaker:Kattie: Oh, and in the UK that would be highly tempting I'm sure.
Speaker:Danny: It was crazy it was a really good evening. Like, the the sounds, the visuals, everything -
Speaker:Danny: great experience um but yeah I'm same as you I
Speaker:Danny: tried uh some ecstasy and felt really
Speaker:Danny: euphoric on the evening and that did help with the pulse and
Speaker:Danny: bass, and all the lights that was going on. But the day after it's the
Speaker:Danny: the worst like come down I guess, yeah, you know I felt lethargic, didn't want
Speaker:Danny: to do anything. It has a really interesting side effect for men as well, which
Speaker:Danny: makes a certain part of their body very very small um so i will leave that i
Speaker:Danny: will leave that there.
Speaker:Kattie: I feel, like that tells you everything you need to know though. I feel like your body
Speaker:Kattie: is just in shock it's just like I am so tense but feel awful. Like, the entire
Speaker:Kattie: day I don't think I got out of bed until like 5 p.m like it was brutal absolutely
Speaker:Kattie: brutal i've never felt so awful in my life.
Speaker:Danny: And I'm curious if you ever have kids of your own for example, um because obviously
Speaker:Danny: you've had experiences of your your own, if they said they want to experiment
Speaker:Danny: what would your advice to them be maybe?
Speaker:Kattie: This is so funny because i was listening to a podcast yesterday that kind of
Speaker:Kattie: um touched on this a little bit which was this guy was talking about how he
Speaker:Kattie: had asked his mom about wanting to try weed.
Speaker:Kattie: And he said, his mom said to him, well, you know, I've tried it before.
Speaker:Kattie: It just kind of made me really sleepy and eat a lot. And it's not really my thing.
Speaker:Kattie: And he was like, oh, okay, well, that doesn't sound very exciting to me.
Speaker:Kattie: So he just never ended up smoking weed. And he didn't end up trying it until he was in his early 30s.
Speaker:Kattie: Because he just had no interest in it. He didn't really care.
Speaker:Kattie: And to this day, he's not like a big drinker. He's definitely not a drug user,
Speaker:Kattie: like he just isn't into that stuff.
Speaker:Kattie: And not like, I think that's the ideal outcome for everybody that they want for their child.
Speaker:Kattie: I don't know if it's necessarily realistic.
Speaker:Kattie: But I think if I had a kid and they asked me about drugs, I'd probably be just
Speaker:Kattie: as honest as I'm being right now about how it was.
Speaker:Kattie: Like you feel good the night before, you feel like trash the next day. Like.
Speaker:Kattie: You can't stop kids from trying something anyway, especially if you say no,
Speaker:Kattie: they're usually going to say they're usually going to do it, I feel like.
Speaker:Kattie: So I just try and be honest about it and be like, it's up to you.
Speaker:Kattie: But I wouldn't recommend going crazy about this.
Speaker:Kattie: And if you want to try it, try a small amount first kind of thing and go from there.
Speaker:Kattie: Or if something is definitely extremely dangerous, I'd be like,
Speaker:Kattie: this is how dangerous this is. maybe send them some articles and just be like
Speaker:Kattie: read this before you decide to make this decision.
Speaker:Danny: Well that's it's like you say it's that fine line where you're trying to
Speaker:Danny: a um not be judgmental because you did the same
Speaker:Danny: thing you know as a younger person um so they can throw that back you. But as
Speaker:Danny: you say, you don't want to put them, you don't want to encourage them by trying
Speaker:Danny: to put them off too much because then it's just going to make them rebel that's
Speaker:Danny: what kids do, that's what we did as kids, we rebelled against whatever our parents
Speaker:Danny: told us not to do we would. So I can imagine it being like, thankfully,
Speaker:Danny: I've not had that discussion yet or had to have it with my kids.
Speaker:Danny: Not looking forward to that. We'll see how that goes.
Speaker:Danny: But yeah, I feel like that's almost most things that make you feel great at
Speaker:Danny: the time when you're enjoying lots of ice cream, for example,
Speaker:Danny: all the burgers, all the whatever at a food fest.
Speaker:Danny: But then you know you're going to pay for it the day after you know in not a
Speaker:Danny: good way and maybe that's the reason they do that you know maybe they're trying
Speaker:Danny: to give you a lesson say well if you're stupid enough to come back the week
Speaker:Danny: after after having gone through that more fault you.
Speaker:Kattie: This is what happened to me as a kid when I was, I think, maybe 15 or 16.
Speaker:Kattie: I went to a Halloween party and definitely drank way too much red wine.
Speaker:Kattie: And my mom picked me up from that party. And I just she's like,
Speaker:Kattie: I remember the door opening and you just falling out of the door. And I was like, oh, no.
Speaker:Kattie: And my parents were like, Kattie doesn't drink.
Speaker:Kattie: She doesn't do any of these bad things.
Speaker:Kattie: And so that was like the shock of their life was seeing me just inebriated coming
Speaker:Kattie: out of a friend's house. And the next day I had to go visit my grandma and I
Speaker:Kattie: felt like absolute trash.
Speaker:Kattie: And my parents came into my room and they're like, we know how bad you feel.
Speaker:Kattie: We're not going to like, I hope you've learned your lesson kind of thing.
Speaker:Kattie: They didn't like harp on me too much. They just kind of opened the door and
Speaker:Kattie: were like, we're very disappointed in you. And we know how bad you feel.
Speaker:Kattie: So you're going to have to deal with this and see your grandma today.
Speaker:Kattie: So I was like well I definitely have learned my lesson I think.
Speaker:Danny: Well and self-punishment is often the best kind of
Speaker:Danny: punishment because you know I don't want to do that again. Yeah autonomy punishment.
Speaker:Danny: Autonomy punishment - there you go, that's a great band name you can see like an
Speaker:Danny: alt rock band from from Brantford popping up there. Awesome. So there you go kids
Speaker:Danny: just say no. Let's have a look at
Speaker:Danny: question number three.
Speaker:Danny: Ooh, now here's an interesting one. Question three, Kattie, what would be harder
Speaker:Danny: for you: to tell someone you love them or that you do not love them back?
Speaker:Kattie: Ooh, this is such an interesting question because in one instance,
Speaker:Kattie: this is really a question around would you rather be rejected or reject someone?
Speaker:Kattie: And rejection is so hard on both ends.
Speaker:Kattie: I think I think it would be harder for me to tell someone I don't love them back.
Speaker:Kattie: I have like pretty high people pleasing tendencies.
Speaker:Kattie: And I think like when I love something, I really do love something and I'm pretty
Speaker:Kattie: obvious about it too. So I think it'd be pretty easy for me to tell somebody I love them.
Speaker:Kattie: I don't think it's easy for me to like fall in love. But I think if I got there,
Speaker:Kattie: I could definitely tell them.
Speaker:Kattie: But yeah, to tell them I don't love them back would be extremely difficult.
Speaker:Danny: Have you ever been in a position where you've been with someone and they're
Speaker:Danny: clearly more into you than you are into them?
Speaker:Danny: And if so, maybe not in a love factor, but certainly in a relationship before
Speaker:Danny: love was involved, for example.
Speaker:Danny: How did you deal with that? How did you manage that then?
Speaker:Kattie: Interesting. Honestly, like, no. My dating and romantic history has pretty much
Speaker:Kattie: always been being dumped and basically just ending up in the friend zone with everybody.
Speaker:Kattie: But there was one instance that I can think of. I got out of a long-term,
Speaker:Kattie: like a three and a half year relationship right after university,
Speaker:Kattie: at the end of university.
Speaker:Kattie: And that was like basically all of my early 20s
Speaker:Kattie: and late teens so I was ready to date at
Speaker:Kattie: that point. Um, so I spent like basically
Speaker:Kattie: a year dating and that's when I kind of
Speaker:Kattie: had these instances and there was one specific person
Speaker:Kattie: that I can tell you the the story about, telling them and rejecting them. Um, and
Speaker:Kattie: actually we went on a lot of really fun dates and had a lot of fun a lot of
Speaker:Kattie: fun together, and it was clear that he was really into me and I usually always
Speaker:Kattie: had to tell him like, hey I'm just sort of out here dating I just got out of
Speaker:Kattie: a long relationship. I'm not ready to make anything serious.
Speaker:Kattie: And I think because he kept pestering me a bit, it was easier for me to tell
Speaker:Kattie: him because it was starting to get a bit annoying.
Speaker:Kattie: And I wasn't in the headspace where I was taking dating very seriously at that time.
Speaker:Kattie: And then eventually we went on a date and he made some homophobic remarks,
Speaker:Kattie: which made rejecting him a lot easier for me.
Speaker:Kattie: And at the end of that date, I was like, sorry, this is, I don't like you.
Speaker:Kattie: I I don't like that behavior and we're done here.
Speaker:Kattie: And he was pretty upset about that.
Speaker:Kattie: But I was able to be like, no, we're done. That's the biggest instance I have of that.
Speaker:Danny: It always surprises me. Well, I guess not, because, I mean, obviously people
Speaker:Danny: are different in what they share openly and what they keep until they feel they
Speaker:Danny: can share that, because they might have seen something else in that person.
Speaker:Danny: But it always kind of surprises me when people, because most people that are
Speaker:Danny: good people, that are open and accepting, make that very clear.
Speaker:Danny: It comes across when you're talking about people, when you're in environments, etc.
Speaker:Danny: So it always surprises me when when someone comes out that's been with you a
Speaker:Danny: while, or around you for a while, comes out with something that's completely opposite
Speaker:Danny: to what they must know about you as a person and just come up straight out and say something like that.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah it is so interesting like you should know me well
Speaker:Kattie: enough we've gone on like what four or five dates now,
Speaker:Kattie: and i'm pretty obvious about the things that i value in life and uh yeah it's
Speaker:Kattie: so interesting when that happens you're like, wait have we been like have we
Speaker:Kattie: been on the same page this whole time? Clearly not. It's so so wild in that instance
Speaker:Kattie: too because you're just like what has this been this whole time exactly.
Speaker:Danny: And that must have come a bit of a surprise for you because you mentioned you've
Speaker:Danny: been on some amazing dates I guess, up until that point yeah, there'd be no sort
Speaker:Danny: of red flags or warning signs that this person was homophobic.
Speaker:Kattie: Totally yeah and it was it was a super surprise. And I think this is a super
Speaker:Kattie: stereotype, but one of the funniest parts to me was that he was a barista at Starbucks,
Speaker:Kattie: which is like, there are so many people in the LGBTQ community who are baristas and work at Starbucks.
Speaker:Kattie: I'm like, what is up with you, man? Like, you work amongst these people all
Speaker:Kattie: the time. Like, what is wrong?
Speaker:Danny: That's crazy. I know my friend over in Toronto likes to go to Starbucks for that very reason.
Speaker:Danny: Who's a cute one that's on barista duty today? So I hear you.
Speaker:Danny: Yeah, that would be a deal breaker for me, 100%. I think for most people as well.
Speaker:Kattie: I would hope so.
Speaker:Danny: Definitely.
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Speaker:Danny: All righty. So we're going through this. This has been some interesting questions.
Speaker:Danny: Yeah, I have very interesting answers. I'm enjoying this.
Speaker:Danny: Let's see what we have in store for question number four.
Speaker:Danny: Hmm. Interesting one. Okay.
Speaker:Danny: If you could question four, if you could disinvent one thing, what would it be?
Speaker:Kattie: Patriarchy. If we could go way back in time and really look at leadership roles in communities
Speaker:Kattie: and start working with the matriarchy i would love to see where the world would be right now.
Speaker:Danny: And it's crazy because you look at um obviously
Speaker:Danny: most of the powerful roles since history as
Speaker:Danny: you mentioned since like politics began, and presidents and all that
Speaker:Danny: have been men and look where
Speaker:Danny: it's got us. You know, we're looking, you look at all wars have
Speaker:Danny: started you look at you know um all the sort
Speaker:Danny: of right-wing crap that's coming out, and obviously there are right-wing women
Speaker:Danny: as well as there are men, but if you look at the the political leaders and everything
Speaker:Danny: like that, it it does seem that we need... well it doesn't seem, it is we need to
Speaker:Danny: give a fair shot and it's about time
Speaker:Danny: we give a shot to women leaders. And unfortunately, if you look at uh some
Speaker:Danny: of the women leaders that's been in place they've been forced out again because
Speaker:Danny: of you know the old uh the old school tie network unfortunately.
Speaker:Kattie: It, it's so wild the more you think about how
Speaker:Kattie: deeply embedded male leadership is in society
Speaker:Kattie: even like around the world and i've been
Speaker:Kattie: learning a lot through um some actually some indigenous podcasts
Speaker:Kattie: that i've been producing uh around matriarchy. And,
Speaker:Kattie: and just thinking about how embedded in leadership women have been in the past
Speaker:Kattie: and then sort of pushed out of that is so interesting to know that we really
Speaker:Kattie: don't have any perception of what a women-led society is or would be at this point. We have no idea.
Speaker:Kattie: I think we could probably look at New Zealand and their prime minister there,
Speaker:Kattie: but it's because of the nature of it still being within a democratic society.
Speaker:Kattie: It's still different right like we it could be a
Speaker:Kattie: totally different type of political uh leadership
Speaker:Kattie: style if women had been in charge from the beginning, so like we really have
Speaker:Kattie: absolutely no perception and that's why sci-fi can be such a great genre, because
Speaker:Kattie: people imagine these things in a variety of different ways and i think that's
Speaker:Kattie: what makes you and I Star Wars fans too, so yeah,
Speaker:Kattie: But it's, yeah, I think it would just be so interesting to see where things
Speaker:Kattie: would be right now if women had been in charge of all these things.
Speaker:Kattie: I wonder if colonialism would have even happened.
Speaker:Danny: That's a good question, because I'm obviously, as you mentioned,
Speaker:Danny: you work with a lot of indigenous podcasters.
Speaker:Danny: And you're one of the things I always appreciate about your newsletter is you
Speaker:Danny: share water advisories for indigenous communities, communities
Speaker:Danny: and yeah it's again you go
Speaker:Danny: back to i guess maybe because i mean
Speaker:Danny: i'm thinking of the the European colonization as well, um
Speaker:Danny: a lot of that was by decree of Queen
Speaker:Danny: um Elizabeth i feel the first
Speaker:Danny: one, is it Queen Victoria maybe. So i mean i i do feel the majority is obviously
Speaker:Danny: male driven, um because you just have to look at political histories to see what
Speaker:Danny: what happens there, so it would be curious to see if that would be if it would
Speaker:Danny: be there and even if it was there to what degree. Would it still be there but
Speaker:Danny: to a smaller degree or would it not be there whatsoever yeah?
Speaker:Kattie: So interesting, so interesting.
Speaker:Danny: What's funny as well, yeah it's not funny, you mentioned the
Speaker:Danny: New Zealand prime minister and she got forced out if i recall because
Speaker:Danny: she had the audacity to enjoy herself a nightclub one time, and there was a huge
Speaker:Danny: like discourse about it and like political opponents were hammering her and
Speaker:Danny: she was, she just got bombarded. And you flip that to the other side and you look
Speaker:Danny: at Justin Trudeau was over in the UK and okay,
Speaker:Danny: he got a bit of a flak for being at,
Speaker:Danny: I don't know if it was a nightclub or a restaurant or something,
Speaker:Danny: he was having some fun, relaxing, letting his hair down when he should have been at this big event.
Speaker:Danny: And you're thinking, come on, even as a politician, there's a time when your
Speaker:Danny: day job stops and you can just have fun.
Speaker:Danny: And I feel there's a lot more criticism of women leaders and higher standards to live up to there.
Speaker:Kattie: Totally. And if you think about Donald Trump, who literally owns party venues
Speaker:Kattie: and is there all the time, like, what is he doing the majority of the time?
Speaker:Kattie: I'm sure it's not work. I'm willing to put money on that.
Speaker:Danny: I think he's probably eating burgers. I don't know if he's got a bowling alley
Speaker:Danny: at the Mar-a-Lago. He probably has. He golfs a lot, obviously.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah.
Speaker:Danny: Interesting, interesting. So disinvent patriarchy.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah.
Speaker:Danny: Alrighty.
Speaker:Kattie: Not a simple task, but we're imagining here.
Speaker:Danny: Yeah, and it's interesting because I was expecting maybe disinvents or something
Speaker:Danny: that had been invented from a technical point of view or whatever,
Speaker:Danny: but I like that. I like that a lot.
Speaker:Danny: Alrighty, so we've reached question number five. We've flown through this and
Speaker:Danny: it just shows when you're having fun and a great conversation, time does fly.
Speaker:Danny: So let's see how we can wrap this one up, Kattie.
Speaker:Danny: Okay. Question number five. And I feel I may have an idea here,
Speaker:Danny: but I'm not going to put my life on it.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah, definitely don't do that.
Speaker:Danny: I'm not going to put my Toonie or Loonie on it. That's Canadian dollar and two
Speaker:Danny: dollars for our non-Canadian listeners. Okay, Kattie.
Speaker:Danny: Question number five. What do people do too much of today?
Speaker:Kattie: Oh, man.
Speaker:Kattie: These are such hard questions and there's absolutely no way to prepare for them either.
Speaker:Danny: That's the beauty of randomnicity.
Speaker:Kattie: What do people do too much of today. Um, I
Speaker:Kattie: think people are just
Speaker:Kattie: like too chronically online, I think
Speaker:Kattie: that's my answer. They do too much of of trying
Speaker:Kattie: to find themselves through the internet and maybe just
Speaker:Kattie: yeah i don't know if that's a very clear answer.
Speaker:Kattie: But it would be nice if people felt like they
Speaker:Kattie: could uh turn off their phones and just
Speaker:Kattie: like exist in the world again. Um, a
Speaker:Kattie: podcast i was listening to yesterday, Resurrection, which i
Speaker:Kattie: have to shout out it's a wonderful podcast um and
Speaker:Kattie: the story kind of follows two lovers
Speaker:Kattie: sending letters to each other and having phone calls uh living abroad. And i
Speaker:Kattie: was like oh man i refer, i remember that, being a time when i was a kid going
Speaker:Kattie: to camp and sending letters to my family and being so disconnected and living
Speaker:Kattie: in the moment, and still kind of communicating when the time was right.
Speaker:Kattie: And in those instances of communicating with your friends and loved ones through
Speaker:Kattie: letters and phone calls that aren't as often and easily accessible,
Speaker:Kattie: it makes those connections just so much more valuable.
Speaker:Kattie: And this podcast, Resurrection, there's an entire, the first season includes
Speaker:Kattie: an entire stack of hundreds of love letters.
Speaker:Kattie: And it's only the one side of these love letters and seeing kind of how they've
Speaker:Kattie: interacted and how the breaks between the times are when they were together.
Speaker:Kattie: So there is no documentation.
Speaker:Kattie: They were just living in the moment and we'll never know what that was like.
Speaker:Kattie: But then you get the letters from
Speaker:Kattie: when they're separated and you kind of understand their love story there.
Speaker:Kattie: And I don't know, I think, yeah, not being so chronically online would make
Speaker:Kattie: people less depressed, would make people hate themselves less,
Speaker:Kattie: I think, and find more joy in the world, I would hope.
Speaker:Danny: And it's interesting you mention a time of, you know, sending letters,
Speaker:Danny: exchanging letters, etc.
Speaker:Danny: When I was a teen, and we're going back years here, mid-80s,
Speaker:Danny: my first serious girlfriend, we ended up being together for four years.
Speaker:Danny: But this was way before the internet, obviously. So we would either be on the
Speaker:Danny: phone, like a landline phone with a big cable, no cell phones,
Speaker:Danny: no mobile phones or anything, or we'd write each other a letter once a week.
Speaker:Danny: And now and again we'd put little mixtapes in
Speaker:Danny: with these letters and we'd have the the track listing
Speaker:Danny: on the letters, and an explanation of why that song was added. (I love this). It
Speaker:Danny: was amazing and like i say this was going back, oh my grief 40 years now at least,
Speaker:Danny: um and yeah now i feel like my kids now they've just started having their own
Speaker:Danny: phones so they'll text. My son, my 14 year old son has got his first girlfriend.
Speaker:Danny: Oh, second girlfriend, actually. Oh, yeah. A little bit of a player.
Speaker:Danny: A little bit of a player on that one.
Speaker:Danny: But yeah, second girlfriend, but they're texting all the time.
Speaker:Danny: And I feel that's great, but I feel there's something just missing to your point of, you know,
Speaker:Danny: I was watching the Glastonbury Festival. BBC kindly streamed it for the first
Speaker:Danny: time and they streamed a Coldplay concert and I was watching that and at the
Speaker:Danny: end, they were doing their encore and Chris Martin,
Speaker:Danny: they were doing Galaxy of Stars, I think it's called, or Universe of Stars, Sky of Stars.
Speaker:Danny: The song that's got stars in it. And he said before he started,
Speaker:Danny: okay, this is just going to be me, the band and you guys.
Speaker:Danny: So put your phones in your pockets, put them all away and we're just going to
Speaker:Danny: be in the moment and sing this song together and be a 100,000 piece band. And
Speaker:Danny: everybody did that, you watched it and it was amazing and I was getting goosebumps
Speaker:Danny: just watching that performance because nobody was on the phone.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah I think it's interesting like the novelty of
Speaker:Kattie: connection is almost gone now because it just feels so accessible, at least in
Speaker:Kattie: the western world, so it's just so interesting that it almost, you almost take
Speaker:Kattie: your relationships and the people that you meet for granted at this point because
Speaker:Kattie: they're just so accessible and easy to reach.
Speaker:Kattie: Um yeah it's i think that and also
Speaker:Kattie: i've made a conscious effort too because i love taking photos and videos and
Speaker:Kattie: everything and with my phone, it's been so easy to do that um and especially
Speaker:Kattie: like great quality photos and videos too, like phones are so amazing. And i've
Speaker:Kattie: purposely tried to take a shift, have like a little bit of a mindset shift in
Speaker:Kattie: that i'm taking photos and videos for
Speaker:Kattie: myself and not to post online.
Speaker:Kattie: And one of my, I still like look through all the photos that I've taken over
Speaker:Kattie: the number of years on like my Facebook albums and all the old photos I've taken.
Speaker:Kattie: So I love looking at photos and videos.
Speaker:Kattie: So now I'm just like trying to purposely take my mind out of like,
Speaker:Kattie: this is something I want to post and share with the world.
Speaker:Kattie: And this is just something that I want to like look at later and document for another time.
Speaker:Kattie: This is something I've been thinking about out a lot lately, is just like making
Speaker:Kattie: sure that I track things in my life for myself future down the line when I can
Speaker:Kattie: look back at my life and yeah, not feeling the pressure to share with everybody all the time.
Speaker:Danny: And I wonder if the new, so next year, I think, the new curriculum in Ontario
Speaker:Danny: for schools, elementary and high school, there's a restriction on phone usage
Speaker:Danny: and social media usage in class, etc.
Speaker:Danny: I wonder if that will help maybe encourage more of our kids to be,
Speaker:Danny: obviously, parents have got the job to encourage and educate the dangers of online.
Speaker:Danny: But while encouraging, but we don't want to stop you using technology.
Speaker:Danny: We just want to use it effectively, like you mentioned. So I wonder if that
Speaker:Danny: curriculum might help, do you feel, for moving forward?
Speaker:Kattie: I would hope so. I mean, I think if anything, like just living in the moment
Speaker:Kattie: a little bit more, it will help with that.
Speaker:Kattie: Help people focus on classroom content rather than things to post and looking online all the time.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah, we're just so used to absorbing so much content at the same time now.
Speaker:Kattie: I feel like it might be a little bit tricky for people to get used to it again.
Speaker:Kattie: But I have like a bunch of canoe trips planned this summer and cannot wait to
Speaker:Kattie: just like be, be somewhere where I have absolutely no internet access.
Speaker:Kattie: Don't feel the pressure of people reaching out to me and people I have to get back to.
Speaker:Kattie: Don't feel the pressure of needing or wanting to post things.
Speaker:Kattie: I can just live in the moment, hang out with my family and just enjoy life. Ready for that.
Speaker:Danny: And canoeing is perfect for that. Getting out on the water just because it's
Speaker:Danny: just, it's so like going back to basics of humanity, right?
Speaker:Danny: It's just, I love, we are very fortunate. and we have a lake about 20 minutes walk from our house.
Speaker:Danny: So I'll take, I've got a lot of, certainly blow up inflatable kayak.
Speaker:Danny: So I'll take that up, just get it off and then disappear for a couple hours. It's gorgeous.
Speaker:Kattie: That sounds perfect.
Speaker:Danny: And I guess it's like, hopefully, I mean, the problem is the genie's at the
Speaker:Danny: bottom when it comes to tech, but hopefully, like you say, if we can shift mindsets
Speaker:Danny: and people start to appreciate, you can still use tech, but now just be in this moment for now.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah, that's the hardest part. I think, sorry, not to keep ragging on this,
Speaker:Kattie: But I think people have just gotten so
Speaker:Kattie: stuck into like everything is content mindset now, where I'm thinking specifically
Speaker:Kattie: of this woman that I was watching a YouTube video about on TikTok, about she
Speaker:Kattie: was making a video sitting in her car about how she couldn't reach her son and
Speaker:Kattie: how he was supposed to be in detention at school,
Speaker:Kattie: but she couldn't get a hold of anybody at the school.
Speaker:Kattie: And people like why are you filming this video, go to
Speaker:Kattie: the school already, like go find your
Speaker:Kattie: son! It's just everything is content and people just
Speaker:Kattie: have to make things for for no reason and go on TikTok make a video and ask
Speaker:Kattie: people for advice, when you should have friends and family close enough to you
Speaker:Kattie: to give you sound advice with the context and the nuance of who you are as a
Speaker:Kattie: person. So I don't know it's just so weird that people just go online for everything now Well.
Speaker:Danny: It's like the people, just to elaborate on your point there as well,
Speaker:Danny: it's like people, they're filming a fight or they're filming a car crash and
Speaker:Danny: the person's still in the car. You're filming it and you're thinking,
Speaker:Danny: Why aren't you calling 911? Why aren't you helping?
Speaker:Danny: It's like clicks and views seem to be pervasive in our society, unfortunately.
Speaker:Danny: Again, hopefully, as more people realize the dangers of online and too much
Speaker:Danny: connectivity, hopefully we'll start to peel some of that back for us.
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah, I hope our relationships have value again sometime soon.
Speaker:Danny: Unless they're homophobic, obviously. Exactly. Get rid of these ones.
Speaker:Kattie: Toss them in the trash.
Speaker:Danny: So Kattie as I mentioned, I really enjoyed these five question and answers. In
Speaker:Danny: all 100% fairness, I always do this every week, I feel it's only fair that you
Speaker:Danny: get to ask your own random question of me because I have put you through the
Speaker:Danny: ringer for the last 30 minutes or so okay.
Speaker:Kattie: Um what is the worst food combination you've ever tried?
Speaker:Danny: Oh that is like... I mean I'm Scottish so there's probably with some really bad
Speaker:Danny: food combinations anyway. Ah, food combinations.
Speaker:Danny: I feel there's something to do with a breakfast I had in the US because the
Speaker:Danny: US has got some interesting breakfast choices, if that's the right word.
Speaker:Danny: And I feel there was something where it was a, oh, you know what it is?
Speaker:Danny: It is breakfast, but you can also have it for lunch, etc.
Speaker:Danny: And I was trying to think what the food was and I still don't understand.
Speaker:Danny: I'm sure, oh, you know, a lot of people do like it.
Speaker:Danny: What's the fascination with fried chicken on waffles and sometimes with some ice cream at the side?
Speaker:Kattie: Oh with the ice cream on the.
Speaker:Danny: Side the ice cream at the side
Speaker:Kattie: Oh listen i think it's just like
Speaker:Kattie: the sweet and savory combo sometimes, and this
Speaker:Kattie: is the thing with sweet and savory, and i'll go out and say it - sometimes it hits
Speaker:Kattie: and sometimes it doesn't. And i think chicken and waffles is one of those things
Speaker:Kattie: where you have to have, like, it has to be perfect. The chicken can't be dry it
Speaker:Kattie: has to be juicy because it has It has to kind of go along with the waffle,
Speaker:Kattie: which is also often a dry food.
Speaker:Kattie: So you have to cook it perfectly for a chicken and waffles to hit.
Speaker:Kattie: Otherwise, it's just kind of nasty and you'd prefer to eat them separately.
Speaker:Kattie: But otherwise, savory and sweet. They do go together sometimes.
Speaker:Danny: Sometimes. I will have to take your word for it. I just, I always think of waffles.
Speaker:Kattie: There's no scientific evidence to that.
Speaker:Danny: I just think of waffles as a dedicated breakfast thing.
Speaker:Danny: So maybe you have waffles and my daughter has waffles with strawberries on it,
Speaker:Danny: sometimes bananas, some little bit of syrup, whatever. And that's her breakfast. She likes that.
Speaker:Danny: Whereas other times, I don't know, maybe you do put ice cream on top of a warm
Speaker:Danny: waffle. But to take like a greasy, I guess it depends on how greasy the chicken is as well.
Speaker:Kattie: I don't think I would combine fried chicken and ice cream.
Speaker:Danny: Well, no. I mean, Scottish people have some weird things like fried Mars bars.
Speaker:Danny: Never had one. Have no interest in having one ever.
Speaker:Danny: So I can't really speak as a cultural, you know, example.
Speaker:Danny: But yeah, I just can't. Like chicken, waffle, ice cream all on the same plate. That was bizarre to see.
Speaker:Kattie: Interesting answer.
Speaker:Danny: Interesting question. Thank you for that. So Kattie, as I mentioned, I really enjoyed this.
Speaker:Danny: For people that want to learn more about you and your role, what you do as a
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Speaker:Danny: for season two, et cetera, where's the best places for them to connect with
Speaker:Danny: you online and check all that stuff out?
Speaker:Kattie: Yeah, the best places to connect with me online are through my newsletter, of course.
Speaker:Kattie: So you can go to podthenorth.com and subscribe to it.
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Speaker:Danny: Awesome. And as always, I'll be sure to leave those links in the show notes.
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Speaker:Danny: They'll link all out to these resources.
Speaker:Danny: So again, Kattie, thanks for appearing on 5 Random Questions.
Speaker:Kattie: My pleasure. Thank you for having me, Danny.
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