Adventures in Spanglish, Family Dystopias, and More with Neal Veglio

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The funny thing is that Modern Family, the Spanglish, all those

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stereotyped movies and television shows where you've got the angry Latina in

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the house, that is not fabricated.

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That's not an exaggeration.

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That is exactly what it is like being with, living with, or even

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conversing with an angry Latina woman.

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Hi, and welcome to 5 Random Questions, the show where

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every question is an adventure.

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I'm your host Danny Brown.

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And each week, I'll be asking my guests five questions created

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by a random question generator.

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The guest has no idea what the questions are, and neither do I,

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which means this could go either way.

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So sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's episode.

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Today's guest is Neal Veglio, who's the owner of podcast

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agency Podknow Podcasting.

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which helps deliver real world results to serious podcasters and organizations.

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He's also the founder of Podmastery, a service and podcast that helps

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you increase your podcast success.

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And as someone who's been in the podcasting space since 2001, he's

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probably older than 98 percent of all podcasters out there.

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So be gentle if you see him down your local supermarket.

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Neal, welcome to the show, mate.

Neal: 00:01:07

Thank you, young Danny.

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Appreciate your kindness there about my age.

Danny: 00:01:14

That's yeah, I thought I was speaking to Emperor Palpatine there.

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Oh, he's coming in there.

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A little bit of Palpatine, a little bit of Animal from the Muppets,

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and maybe even a tiny piece of Yoda in there for a good measure.

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How

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are

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you doing, Neal?

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I'm fantastic.

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I'm really excited because I get to be on your brand new podcast that's

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only been going for a few weeks now.

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Yeah really good.

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And, fresh, I'm going to do it because you won't, because you're Mr Diplomatic, Fresh

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from your company's amazing live stream where you unveiled a load of new features.

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So I'm loving podcasting today.

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Yeah, thanks, mate.

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And yeah, I'm for listeners that don't know, I'm the head of podcaster

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support and experience at Captivate.

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fm.

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And we had a feature release or a feature update, earlier today.

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goes out tomorrow as we're recording this.

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And so we did a live stream.

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The CEO and co founder Mark Asquith did the live stream for that.

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And it was cool.

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Neal was in the old chat there chucking his comments at us

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and being a nice supporter.

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So that was good.

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So yeah, it's great.

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Excited to see that come out as well, mate.

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So thanks for all the good words that you're putting in there.

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Pleasure.

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Always a pleasure to support you guys.

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Now I have to get the elephant in the room out of the way.

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first before we jump into the five random questions.

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You're a good, proud Englishman.

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We've just finished the Euros.

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Did you watch it?

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Are you an English supporter or what was your take?

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What happened?

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I'm one of those typical armchair supporters where I don't

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watch any club level football.

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And then I suddenly become an expert when we're at a tournament level.

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And yes, I did watch it.

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No, I didn't have any expectations.

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And very proud of the boys, very proud of Gareth.

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Sad to hear he's, he's decided enough's enough.

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But yeah, I come from the footballing capital of the world.

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It's not like I can't watch it, is it really?

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It's against the law.

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That's true.

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Did you go out for any games, like any of the pubs that were holding it or anything,

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or were you just watching at home?

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Armchair supported, Danny.

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I

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don't leave the house for any good reason, unless it's a really good reason.

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When in England, I see.

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I got to be careful here because I'm Scottish, obviously.

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So anytime I speak about the English football team, there's

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a bit of bias comes over, I was.

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I did want Spain to win it, not because we're playing England, I'll

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be honest but primarily because of the way the media always tends to

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build England up pre tournament.

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Then they rip into them and they rip into the players and they ripped into

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Southgate, sometimes valid, oftentimes not valid, and then they start to build them

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up again as they get closer to the final.

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I can't be done with that kind of sports journalism and Spain played the

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better football throughout the whole tournament, so it was nice to see

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that, get them the goal, if you like.

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Absolutely.

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I think the difference this time around, certainly from

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where I was watching things.

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I think that, there was a definite divide between people that were being mean

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about Gareth and the boys and people that were just, they didn't know what they

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were talking about, and it, for me it did feel like most of the country that

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weren't the crazy gatekeeper football fans were definitely getting behind

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them and were proud, it was actually a really nice tournament this time

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round and yeah, you had some trouble, but you're always going to get trouble

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when you get a bunch of Englishmen and some beer together in the same room.

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It's always going to be a nightmare, isn't it?

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Not just football fans.

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You see them podcasting people when they go to the events.

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Get the old three beers at the meetups, etc.

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Ooh, we could tell tales.

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Alrighty, Neal, so it's five random questions.

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So what I'm going to do is I'm going to bring up the random question

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generator and we'll see how this goes.

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You ready for the questions today?

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I'm excited.

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Let's do it.

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Okay, question number one.

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What is something you learned in the last week?

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Oh, that's a good one.

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Off to a strong start.

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I would say, as he pauses for time and uses filler words,

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you're Jordan Pickford in goal.

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I'll tell you what it was.

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Okay, I'm going to be completely honest, actually.

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Talking about Jordan Pickford, this is a football related

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what I've learned this week.

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I'm glad I didn't tweet it because I saw the pure vitriol that came back at this

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person when they did tweet about it.

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I didn't realize that the Spanish National Anthem had no lyrics.

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I learned that the hard way.

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Cause I was sat there with my wife watching game.

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And of course, yeah, Gareth and the boys, they're all like, Oh God, save the king.

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And I was sat there thinking, hang on a minute.

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That's right.

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Why the Spanish not as patriotic?

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Unlike Ian Dale, I didn't actually tweet that and bless him.

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He came in for quite a bit of flack on X.

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Because of that that comment.

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But yeah, I'm in the same camp.

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I did not realize that the Spanish National Anthem has no lyrics.

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That is interesting.

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I saw them.

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Like you mentioned, I saw the team standing there and the anthem was

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playing in the background and nobody was mouthing, even if you're just like

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half hearted about the anthem, because I know there's a whole political thing

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going on in Spain with the Basque region versus some other parts of Spain, etc.

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And some team members come from the Basque region, some don't.

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So there's that, that possible, political side of it, but he never knew it was

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because there's no lyrics at all.

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So do you have any more information on that?

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How that came about or?

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Not a clue.

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I've got no idea.

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All I saw was a bunch of players that were completely stony silent and I

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thought, wow, okay they're obviously either really confident or really don't

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care about their country, which was a terrible assumption to make on my part.

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And I've learned from it.

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Unlike Ian Dale, who probably hasn't.

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So yeah, it was very surprising, but now I feel that I've got one up at

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a pub quiz when when someone tries to catch me out and say, sing the

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national anthem for Spain, Neal.

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Let me clear my throat.

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I'll have to, I'll have to link to Ian's tweet.

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I'll find the tweet and link to that in the show notes, em.

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Cause yeah, I was watching it.

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I was thinking the really, as you say, they've got a really steely gaze.

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I just thought they were so focused on the game at hand and what was coming up.

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Maybe they didn't want to waste their breath singing the anthem.

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They wanted to save it for the battle that was about to come.

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But I wonder if there's any other countries that don't sing.

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The Scots don't care.

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We've got our national one from the Flower of Scotland.

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We'll study.

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Mumble that if I remember it.

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I know Canada is very patriotic about their national anthem.

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The US, obviously, hugely patriotic for their national anthem.

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But I wonder if there's any countries on top of that, that don't have

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words to the national anthem.

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I'm sure you'll get listeners emailing in and telling you, Danny,

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how did you not know about I know.

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Outer Wherever it's called, National Anthem not having lyrics.

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See, now I'm going to research that after this episode.

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I'm going to start researching that and I'm going to drop a whole, but

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I might not drop all the links in.

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I might set up a nice little Easter egg, treasure hunt.

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Okay, I'm going to do a special giveaway for anybody that can tell me

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how many countries do not have words to the National Anthems and what these

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words are, just to confuse people.

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But that's very cool.

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That's an interesting little, tidbit to kick the episode off.

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So yeah, that's further investigation is needed for that, I think.

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So now that we know that Spain was not ignoring their royal family or

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whoever the national anthem would be in honor of, let's have a look

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and see what question number two is.

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All right, Neal, I'm a bit of foodie, so I know what I would do here, I think.

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But question number two, what is the one food that you would never give up?

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Beef.

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Oh, beef.

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And in particular, if you want me to get really niche, roast beef.

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I'm thinking there's a, I'm thinking there's a Sunday roast

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reason for that

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here.

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Are you a traditionalist?

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Every Sunday you've got the roast on?

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I'm not as often as I'd like.

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Unfortunately, I'm married to a a Costa Rican woman by descent and

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they didn't really do roast beef roast family meals in Latin America.

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I get treated whenever I go and visit my mam and of course, like

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everybody's mam, my mam cooks the best roast beef on the planet.

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So it's always a treat to go, it's obviously a treat to go home and

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see the parents anyway but certainly having mum preparing a nice roast

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beef for a little boy is definitely a highlight in the value family.

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Whenever we have a meetup.

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So yeah, that's probably, it probably is a childhood thing.

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I think a lot of these food related comforts tend to come

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from your childhood don't they?

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Whether there's a certain chocolate bar that reminds you of happy

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memories or whether there's you know, a certain type of dessert or a

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meal, but yeah for me roast beef, it definitely reminds me of simpler times.

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When we weren't all sat with our phones out on the table when we were eating, and

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we were actually talking to each other and conversing like normal human beings.

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Why, I also wonder if the, I love a good roast beef.

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I'll make a roast now and again, like I'm married to a Canadian and she loves,

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Sunday roast when I make a Sunday roast, whether it's roast beef or maybe it's

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a pork loin or something like that.

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But I also wonder, you mentioned, it's like simpler times or

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childhoods where it came from.

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I wonder now with the influx of tech and phones and all that kind

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of stuff that maybe roast dinners aren't quite certainly in the UK.

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It's a very UK specific thing.

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I feel a roast beef dinner, a Sunday roast, etcetera.

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I wonder if I'm that sort of going to die down and more

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people just do their own thing.

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And, don't get together as often for that kind of, family get together.

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Oh, that's a very depressing thing that you brought up there, Danny.

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That's made me feel very sad, thinking of this utopia, dystopian

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future where, families are all having their own individual meals

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and all consumed in their own virtual reality worlds on their phones.

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I don't think I want to live in that world, Danny.

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I want to go back to the eighties and just eat prawn cocktails for starters and

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a bit of sweet corn and some roast beef.

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Thanks very much.

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Yeah I can see it now.

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You look at some, our kids are very active.

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They're like competitive athletes.

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My son plays football, soccer in North America and my

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daughter's a competitive cheer.

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So they're very active in the evenings.

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They've got lots of training.

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They've got games and competitions and all that stuff.

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So sometimes it's harder to get together as a family.

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And a lot of the time my wife does the driving, she'll be like, Oh, Be with

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the kids and I'm just at home eating beans on toast for my dinner or my tea,

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whatever you want, whatever you call it.

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But we do try and make an effort.

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Obviously, when everybody's in the same vicinity, we'll make an effort to sit

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down and have that family get together.

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But I can see as well.

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I completely agree.

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It's very much Something I wouldn't want to see become the norm, but

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I can also understand how it could become the norm, depending on, what

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your life's and business, et cetera.

Neal: 00:11:37

Yeah.

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We all live very busy lives and you know that the whole.

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This is what I think I've noticed as I've got older is that, it becomes harder and

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harder to make that time for family time just because of the pressures of business.

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If you've got a job, you've got 9 million tasks you've got to

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complete before the end of the day.

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And even with the hybrid remote working now that, it's

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pretty much become the norm.

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It's still seems to be that overzealous, overambitious bosses

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like to pile work on their staff, even if they're based at home doing it.

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Yeah, it is.

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It's a special time and I really hope that we don't lose it.

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I hope it, it definitely stays with us.

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And you mentioned your wife.

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Is it Costa Rican, your wife?

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Costa Rican descent Costa Rican, that's right.

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Cost.

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Has she had, prior to marrying you and moving to the UK, et cetera,

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had she had like a Sunday roast equivalent or not equivalent?

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Has she had us traditional Sunday roast?

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Was that her first introduction to it?

Neal: 00:12:28

That was her first introduction to it, meeting me, as if I wasn't enough.

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The fact that I introduced roast beef into a life just may give

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us the icing on the cake, Danny.

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I can imagine.

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And what's her specialty then?

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I can imagine she's maybe got a specialty or two for dinners.

Neal: 00:12:44

Name any sort of, underground Latin American dish.

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So you got rosa con pollo.

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You've got, all the stuff that you wouldn't get in a Tex Mex restaurant,

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basically, the proper stuff.

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The pico de gallo and all that kind of stuff.

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She really specializes in that.

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That's awesome.

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I think if I ever get to the Podcast Show in London, which I keep pushing Mark to

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get me over to, but no success yet, I'm gonna have to employ your wife, I think,

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to make a nice dish, because I love that kind of food, and that would be amazing

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to have it be proper, authentic as well, as opposed to, not that I have a shop

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there, but like a Taco Bell or something.

Danny: 00:13:21

No, thank you.

Neal: 00:13:22

You don't want to go to Taco Bell if you've got the choice of a Taco

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Bell on my wife's cooking, absolutely.

Danny: 00:13:28

I never could understand why Taco Bell became so popular.

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Maybe cost cheapness, the cost and food, etc.

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But when you taste the food, I just like when I never had a Taco Bell.

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prior to moving to Canada.

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And I, when I first moved here because I was still going through the process

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and getting my visa or my permanent residence and all that sorted out,

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I had to take certain like odd jobs where you just try to make some money.

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And one of them was a mystery shopper.

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And part of that was going to fast food restaurants and, making notes of the

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ambience, the cleanliness and that.

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But because of that, you had to buy the stuff there to see

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what the whole process was like.

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That was my first taste of Taco Bell, and I was appalled, mate.

Danny: 00:14:07

Appalled.

Danny: 00:14:07

I thought, oh.

Neal: 00:14:09

Thought you were going to say, it was pleasantly surprising.

Neal: 00:14:12

Oh

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no, it was awful.

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And I may be better now, I doubt it.

Danny: 00:14:16

I pretty much guaranteed the same recipe.

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But yeah, no Taco Bell for me.

Danny: 00:14:21

I'm sorry.

Neal: 00:14:21

You

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know that probably, when did you move to Canada?

Neal: 00:14:25

How long ago was that?

Danny: 00:14:27

2006, so almost 20 years now.

Neal: 00:14:29

There's probably way more Taco Bells here now in the UK

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than were here when you were here.

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It's becoming a growing brand.

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There's even my local town, they've got a Taco Bell as well.

Neal: 00:14:40

Yeah, it's, they're

Neal: 00:14:41

coming over

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like locusts.

Danny: 00:14:43

That's probably why people were leaving the UK then.

Danny: 00:14:46

It has nothing to do with Brexit, it's Taco Bell's fault.

Danny: 00:14:48

You heard it here first.

Danny: 00:14:50

Alrighty Neal, moving swiftly on from the whole Taco Bell debauchery,

Danny: 00:14:55

which I feel could happen if you actually had too much Taco Bell.

Danny: 00:14:58

Let's have a look at what question number three would be.

Danny: 00:15:03

This, ooh, okay, this is an interesting one.

Danny: 00:15:06

Because, yeah, I'm just gonna let you have it, mate.

Danny: 00:15:09

What's question number three, Neal?

Danny: 00:15:11

What's one difference between us that you love?

Neal: 00:15:15

Is this between you and I?

Danny: 00:15:17

I'm, see, this is what I'm, this is what I love about the show.

Danny: 00:15:20

It's just popped up.

Danny: 00:15:21

I have no idea what the context is between the, so let's go two options.

Danny: 00:15:26

So let's go the difference between you and I as people, me and you,

Danny: 00:15:29

and then maybe let's go as cultural.

Danny: 00:15:33

So English versus Scottish or however you want to approach that side of it.

Neal: 00:15:37

Okay.

Neal: 00:15:38

Interesting.

Neal: 00:15:39

Intriguing.

Neal: 00:15:39

Okay.

Neal: 00:15:40

The difference between you and I, on a personal level, is pretty, I mean

Neal: 00:15:45

we have to go to the work thing, in the, you're clearly someone that

Neal: 00:15:49

is an indie podcaster, and you love podcasts, you're, borderline need

Neal: 00:15:54

an intervention, to be honest with you, the amount of podcasts that you

Neal: 00:15:56

launch, I worry about you sometimes.

Neal: 00:15:59

Especially knowing that you're a family man and, time is poor as it is.

Neal: 00:16:03

Versus me, who is a business owner who does podcasting for a living for

Neal: 00:16:09

other people and would love to do more podcasts for myself, but simply

Neal: 00:16:13

there aren't enough hours in the day.

Neal: 00:16:15

So I think that's like the most obvious difference between you

Neal: 00:16:19

and I personally, culturally.

Neal: 00:16:22

Interestingly, I think there's a similar maybe difference in the creative aspect

Neal: 00:16:27

in that I think you perhaps probably approach your content in a kind of,

Neal: 00:16:34

I love getting content out there and I wanna just share knowledge with the

Neal: 00:16:38

world and you're really good at what you do with the One Minute Podcast Tips

Neal: 00:16:41

that you do, which I'm a big fan of.

Neal: 00:16:43

You've had podcasts in the past where you've interviewed people.

Neal: 00:16:45

Obviously you've got this now, which is obviously a very different

Neal: 00:16:47

approach versus me, who is.

Neal: 00:16:50

So beyond tied down in the minutiae and the perfectionism of like barely even

Neal: 00:16:56

getting one episode out a month I think I could really learn something from

Neal: 00:17:01

someone like you culturally where You just go, do you know what content is great.

Neal: 00:17:05

Let's just get this out there and, and we just rush through it and get it all done.

Neal: 00:17:09

And honestly, when you listen to what you're producing, you

Neal: 00:17:11

listen to what I'm producing.

Neal: 00:17:13

You can't tell the difference.

Neal: 00:17:15

So there's a learning moment there.

Neal: 00:17:17

Neal, stop getting bogged down in the detail, but I think that's what

Neal: 00:17:21

makes it brilliant in this industry is that, you've got some people

Neal: 00:17:24

that approach things in one way.

Neal: 00:17:25

You've got some people that approach things in a different way.

Neal: 00:17:28

It makes us all really different and unique and it.

Neal: 00:17:30

It's just that, without wishing to sound poetic, it's like that smorgasbord of

Neal: 00:17:37

different tasty dishes that people can tuck into and find their own preferences.

Danny: 00:17:42

I almost wonder, and A, thank you.

Danny: 00:17:44

A, thank you for The kind words about my content approach, but then

Danny: 00:17:48

B, what's that a little, sorry, passive aggressive because you

Danny: 00:17:51

just throw it out there, Danny.

Danny: 00:17:52

You get it done.

Danny: 00:17:52

You don't care about it.

Danny: 00:17:53

You're it's out there.

Danny: 00:17:54

So I see what you did.

Danny: 00:17:55

Are you monkey?

Neal: 00:17:58

Not

Neal: 00:17:58

at

Neal: 00:17:58

all.

Danny: 00:17:59

I almost wonder so when I was back in the UK years ago, I'd be,

Danny: 00:18:03

I'm going to say early, mid twenties.

Danny: 00:18:05

My age wise.

Danny: 00:18:06

So I was, I'm still a big gamer, but I was a huge video gamer then

Danny: 00:18:10

and the Dreamcast was about to come out in the UK, something like that.

Danny: 00:18:13

And I knew people that worked at Sega as game testers.

Danny: 00:18:16

So they'd, work on games, et cetera, to test them.

Danny: 00:18:19

And the last thing they wanted to do When they got home was play video games

Danny: 00:18:23

because they've been so focused on trying to identify small little bugs, glitches,

Danny: 00:18:28

stuff that should have worked, that should have worked and didn't work, etcetera.

Danny: 00:18:31

And I wonder if that's maybe the same with someone in your position that does

Danny: 00:18:35

so much for podcasters and, companies and production companies, etcetera.

Danny: 00:18:40

The last thing you want to do when you've been podcasting all day long,

Danny: 00:18:43

For someone else or working on podcasts all day long for someone else is

Danny: 00:18:48

now go back and record and edit and publish and market your own thing.

Danny: 00:18:51

I wonder if that's part of it as well mate.

Neal: 00:18:53

It's really interesting you bring this up because this actually has surfaced

Neal: 00:18:57

for me quite recently actually when I was talking to somebody about my processes

Neal: 00:19:01

and it is really interesting that.

Neal: 00:19:03

Obviously I come from a radio presenter background that was my gig for you

Neal: 00:19:07

know nearly 30 years was going into radio studios in front of the mic

Neal: 00:19:12

holding down morning radio shows and writing the comedy bits and performing

Neal: 00:19:16

the skits and playing the music and talking to callers and all that stuff.

Neal: 00:19:20

And I really loved it.

Neal: 00:19:21

Don't get me wrong.

Neal: 00:19:22

I really enjoyed it, but it didn't fire me up in the same way that it

Neal: 00:19:27

does when I'm actually producing other.

Neal: 00:19:30

And I learned this producing others was really exciting to me, like

Neal: 00:19:33

the fact that I could take someone.

Neal: 00:19:35

Who was slightly unseasoned and didn't have necessarily my

Neal: 00:19:39

experience and my skill set.

Neal: 00:19:41

And helping them to grow their skill sets to basically emulate

Neal: 00:19:44

what I'd been doing before.

Neal: 00:19:46

And I really picked up on the fact that I get way more.

Neal: 00:19:50

Out of doing that for others than I ever do for myself.

Neal: 00:19:53

So I think there's a big aspect, I think you're right.

Neal: 00:19:55

I think there is that aspect of, busman's holiday.

Neal: 00:19:59

To quote a British term.

Neal: 00:20:01

You don't necessarily want to do as a hobby that you do as a job.

Neal: 00:20:04

But also I think it's probably that it doesn't turn me on quite as much to

Neal: 00:20:09

stick my own content out there in a feed.

Neal: 00:20:11

and see the data coming back on me.

Neal: 00:20:13

It really turns me on when I see the data coming in for a client or

Neal: 00:20:17

for someone I've been consulting with or training or, coaching.

Neal: 00:20:21

That is a different ballgame to me.

Neal: 00:20:23

And I think That is the interesting part is that maybe I need to look

Neal: 00:20:27

at gamifying this slightly more for myself to make it much more of a much

Neal: 00:20:32

more of a dopamine hit to actually get that content out there for myself.

Danny: 00:20:36

Good point.

Danny: 00:20:37

And that's it as well.

Danny: 00:20:38

It comes back to the whole, like a lot of podcasters start

Danny: 00:20:40

it as a passion project, right?

Danny: 00:20:42

It's a hobby project in the might and meander.

Danny: 00:20:44

Along as a hobby and meander is a horrible word.

Danny: 00:20:46

I apologize.

Danny: 00:20:46

I don't mean you meander because you don't want to take your podcast to

Danny: 00:20:49

monetization or growth or anything like that, but they're completely happy

Danny: 00:20:53

about keeping it as a hobby because that's what they're passionate about.

Danny: 00:20:57

They're passionate about talking about their Star Wars love or their love of

Danny: 00:21:00

Jason and the Argonauts, and the effects that Ray Harryhausen did back in the day.

Danny: 00:21:04

But then, to your point, if you're not passionate about creating the

Danny: 00:21:08

content, then the content itself might suffer anyway, because you're just

Danny: 00:21:12

going to start mailing it in, just to make sure that you've met your quota

Danny: 00:21:16

of one episode per month, and it's out there, here's my marketing, and

Danny: 00:21:19

you're done, ready for the next one, and then you go back to obviously,

Danny: 00:21:22

Being super passionate about creating great, podcasts and great experiences

Danny: 00:21:26

for your clients who then can see the results and the effects of that work.

Danny: 00:21:31

So I feel that the your passion side is more geared towards the behind the scenes

Danny: 00:21:37

as opposed to front end stuff, right?

Neal: 00:21:40

I think I'd agree with that.

Neal: 00:21:41

I think, yeah, it's a different, it's a different approach,

Neal: 00:21:44

obviously, and there's a different output, but I think, yeah, for me.

Neal: 00:21:48

Sitting down and recording something into a microphone.

Neal: 00:21:51

It's usually done because I'm, it's a means to an end.

Neal: 00:21:54

It's either it's a marketing thing, be it with the PodMastery, which

Neal: 00:21:57

is very much, I enjoy doing it.

Neal: 00:21:59

Don't get me wrong.

Neal: 00:21:59

I love to do the PodMastery podcast, but it doesn't hold that same passion for me.

Neal: 00:22:06

I try and put a bit of as much of me into it as I can.

Neal: 00:22:10

But it's never going to fill me with as much joy as getting someone

Neal: 00:22:14

else and putting their brand out there and getting them the results.

Neal: 00:22:18

It's just a weird block that I've got mentally around it where, of

Neal: 00:22:22

course I love doing it, but I prefer doing other things for other people.

Danny: 00:22:26

It's like they say you've got great voices for, what

Danny: 00:22:29

is it, great voices for TV?

Danny: 00:22:30

Great face for radio.

Danny: 00:22:32

Great face for podcasting.

Neal: 00:22:34

I've heard that one before.

Neal: 00:22:36

That's why I never went into TV, mate.

Danny: 00:22:38

You know what?

Danny: 00:22:39

I was like doing a show, I think I was a guest on a show a while back

Danny: 00:22:42

and someone said that, and I don't think they meant it to be mean.

Danny: 00:22:46

But as the way it came across, I think it was more because of my accent and this

Danny: 00:22:49

was a North American podcaster, so it sounded a bit more exotic, if you like.

Danny: 00:22:53

But they said, oh, you've got a great voice for, do you do video?

Danny: 00:22:57

Something like this.

Danny: 00:22:58

Do you do video?

Danny: 00:22:58

I don't.

Danny: 00:22:59

I only do audio.

Danny: 00:23:00

Yeah, I can see why.

Neal: 00:23:03

Wow.

Neal: 00:23:04

How rude.

Danny: 00:23:07

I do feel they were on about the vocal, but I didn't

Danny: 00:23:10

really want to push them.

Danny: 00:23:11

I'm not George Clooney.

Danny: 00:23:13

So I can understand that, but I thought that was an interesting choice of a

Danny: 00:23:17

phrase to come and introduce me with.

Danny: 00:23:19

We'll see.

Danny: 00:23:20

Anyway, so there you go.

Danny: 00:23:21

Listeners, if you want Neal to get super passionate and yak along for

Danny: 00:23:24

ages, speak about podcast production and not about podcast making.

Danny: 00:23:30

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Danny: 00:23:32

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Danny: 00:23:49

And now, back to this week's episode.

Danny: 00:23:56

Alrighty, so we're about three, we are at, there's no about it.

Danny: 00:24:00

We're three fifths of the way through, so let's go and see what

Danny: 00:24:03

question number four holds for us.

Danny: 00:24:06

Okay, I have a little guess.

Danny: 00:24:08

Or maybe I've got a guess on what this might be, but you might

Danny: 00:24:10

already be fluent, so we shall see.

Danny: 00:24:13

Question number four.

Danny: 00:24:15

If you could learn any language fluently, what would it be?

Neal: 00:24:19

Your guess would be correct.

Neal: 00:24:21

You obviously picked up on the Costa Rican wife thing.

Neal: 00:24:23

Yeah, Spanish.

Neal: 00:24:24

I did try.

Neal: 00:24:25

When we first met, I did try and learn it.

Neal: 00:24:28

I'll be completely honest.

Neal: 00:24:29

I picked up maybe, I don't know.

Neal: 00:24:32

10 percent of conversational Spanish.

Neal: 00:24:34

I actually had, this was in the days when, you had to literally download stuff to

Neal: 00:24:40

your MP3 devices because we didn't have iPhones that were connected directly to

Neal: 00:24:45

Spotify and Apple podcasts back then.

Neal: 00:24:48

I had this audio book and the name of the chap that read the audio book escapes me

Neal: 00:24:53

now, but he was a Portuguese fella and he taught pretty much every single language.

Neal: 00:24:59

And one of those languages was Spanish.

Neal: 00:25:01

And I loved the way that he did it because rather than saying,

Neal: 00:25:05

saying and is E and saying you is do and all this sort of stuff.

Neal: 00:25:11

And the way that we tend to learn basic, languages, he would literally

Neal: 00:25:15

go straight in with an immersion.

Neal: 00:25:17

So it was like you're in a shop and you want to buy a loaf of bread and some milk.

Neal: 00:25:21

How are you going to do this?

Neal: 00:25:22

And then he'd do role playing and things like that.

Neal: 00:25:23

And I found that really helpful for my then younger brain to absorb it.

Neal: 00:25:29

But it's like anything.

Neal: 00:25:31

You get to a certain age.

Neal: 00:25:32

I started this when I was about 31, I'm 48 now.

Neal: 00:25:36

And by the time I got to about 33, I was just like, I'm too old to learn language.

Neal: 00:25:40

And I just got lazy, honestly.

Neal: 00:25:42

And what I found was that talking to my in laws, I was getting by enough.

Neal: 00:25:50

I thought now I think I can just chill out on this.

Neal: 00:25:53

But of course, like anything, you don't use it, you lose it.

Neal: 00:25:56

And so I've.

Neal: 00:25:57

Definitely, I frustrate my mother in law because she's trying to talk to me and

Neal: 00:26:02

she's asking me for more wine and I'm not hearing her because I'm not understanding

Neal: 00:26:06

so she goes with an empty glass for about ten minutes too long and so I get told

Neal: 00:26:10

off yeah, it would be really nice to be able to just click a button in the head

Neal: 00:26:14

and then suddenly be fluent in Spanish so I can talk to my family and please

Neal: 00:26:19

my wife and get her off my back and talk to some of their friends whenever we go

Neal: 00:26:24

on holiday, which we do quite often go back to the States and visit with them.

Neal: 00:26:29

So yeah, that would be definitely my number one now, I think, to learn

Neal: 00:26:34

rather than French, which to be honest, Academically, I probably could do it.

Danny: 00:26:39

I think that's it.

Danny: 00:26:40

I don't know what the UK is like now.

Danny: 00:26:41

I know when I was at like primary school into high school in the UK, French was

Danny: 00:26:46

I think it was an option, actually.

Danny: 00:26:47

French and German.

Danny: 00:26:48

That was the two languages you could learn.

Danny: 00:26:50

And I took both.

Danny: 00:26:51

But after I left high school, I didn't use them.

Danny: 00:26:53

So they just went by the wayside.

Danny: 00:26:55

But I'm wondering, I'm thinking of the Modern Family here as well, actually.

Danny: 00:26:58

When your wife gets angry at you, does she rattle off in Spanish and you're thinking,

Danny: 00:27:04

I really wish I knew what Spanish was now?

Neal: 00:27:07

The problem is I know exactly what she's saying when she's riffing

Neal: 00:27:10

off in Spanish with the swear words.

Neal: 00:27:12

Absolutely.

Neal: 00:27:13

And it makes it more painful because I know exactly what she's saying.

Neal: 00:27:18

But yeah, that is, the funny thing is that Modern Family, the

Neal: 00:27:21

Spanglish, all those stereotyped.

Neal: 00:27:24

Movies and television shows where you've got the angry Latina in the house.

Neal: 00:27:27

That is not fabricated.

Neal: 00:27:29

That's not an exaggeration.

Neal: 00:27:31

That is exactly what it is like being with, living with, or even

Neal: 00:27:35

conversing with an angry Latina woman.

Danny: 00:27:39

You got that passion, right?

Danny: 00:27:40

They've always, I always find that culture very passionate

Danny: 00:27:43

about most things that they do.

Danny: 00:27:45

So I can see that.

Danny: 00:27:46

And it's funny you mentioned like the stereotypical approaches

Danny: 00:27:49

of movies, TV shows, et cetera.

Danny: 00:27:51

I used to watch a show back in the UK.

Danny: 00:27:52

You could probably remember as well, I would imagine Mind Your Language.

Neal: 00:27:56

Ah, yes.

Danny: 00:27:57

Yeah.

Danny: 00:27:58

And I keep seeing little clips of that on YouTube now and again, and

Danny: 00:28:01

I am not sure if some of that could be, presented today or go out as a

Danny: 00:28:05

TV show today, because I feel some of that was very near the knuckle.

Danny: 00:28:09

Not that it was, not that it'd get cancelled to use a term that gets

Danny: 00:28:13

bandied about rightly and wrongly today, but I feel that was really

Danny: 00:28:17

funny, but I can also see that, struggling to get maybe produced today.

Neal: 00:28:21

Oh, 100%.

Neal: 00:28:23

It would be pulled off the air as soon as it was aired.

Neal: 00:28:26

It's yeah, sad, but there we are.

Neal: 00:28:29

That's the world we live in now.

Danny: 00:28:31

Top tips then.

Danny: 00:28:32

If you want to, not upset Neal, but if you want to confuse Neal, speak Spanish.

Danny: 00:28:37

Just learn the basics of Spanish and speak Spanish in front of him.

Danny: 00:28:40

Alright, we've reached the end almost.

Danny: 00:28:42

We're in the home straight now.

Danny: 00:28:44

Coming in to question number five.

Danny: 00:28:46

Let's see what we've got for this one.

Danny: 00:28:47

Haha, okay.

Danny: 00:28:50

I'm curious about this because I feel this is, this the terminology

Danny: 00:28:54

is very British, I feel.

Danny: 00:28:55

Could be wrong.

Danny: 00:28:56

Could be a more global thing.

Danny: 00:28:58

But Neal.

Danny: 00:28:59

Question number five.

Danny: 00:29:01

What was the best thing before sliced bread?

Neal: 00:29:05

The knife.

Neal: 00:29:08

Isn't it obvious?

Danny: 00:29:10

Ah, my grief, that's the shortest answer ever.

Danny: 00:29:13

And now we're roll out of time.

Neal: 00:29:16

Really, it's what do they call it?

Neal: 00:29:18

It's not Schrodinger's cat, is it?

Neal: 00:29:20

It's some somebody's dog.

Neal: 00:29:21

It's like the, Most obvious answer is normally the right one.

Neal: 00:29:25

I think that really You can't slice bread without a knife.

Neal: 00:29:29

How can sliced bread be the best thing?

Danny: 00:29:31

You could use a spoon, maybe.

Danny: 00:29:34

It'd be uneven.

Neal: 00:29:34

It wouldn't look very well sliced!

Danny: 00:29:38

Yeah, but maybe that's what Oh, you know what?

Danny: 00:29:40

Maybe There weren't knives before sliced bread.

Danny: 00:29:42

Maybe people used spoons.

Danny: 00:29:44

Oh, that doesn't look good, doesn't it?

Danny: 00:29:45

They look better than that, doesn't it?

Danny: 00:29:46

My presentation's awful.

Danny: 00:29:47

I can't show that to Queen Mary or Aunt Nancy.

Danny: 00:29:51

So then they thought we need something sharper.

Danny: 00:29:52

What's sharp?

Danny: 00:29:53

I don't know.

Danny: 00:29:54

We'll create something.

Neal: 00:29:56

If ever the podcasting thing dries up, Danny, I think you've

Neal: 00:29:58

got a great future as a politician.

Neal: 00:30:00

You're able to take something that is clearly undebatable and debate it

Danny: 00:30:05

still.

Danny: 00:30:07

There's a joke in there about mass debates and we can't,

Danny: 00:30:10

it's too, it's a too easy one.

Danny: 00:30:11

We won't go there.

Danny: 00:30:12

That's, I could never be a politician in all honesty.

Danny: 00:30:14

I like the abuse and stuff that they get thrown at them.

Danny: 00:30:17

I, and I feel, I can't remember who said it.

Danny: 00:30:20

There was a comedian.

Danny: 00:30:21

And I, I think it might have been George Carlin actually that said the

Danny: 00:30:25

very fact that someone wants to be a politician and the power that comes

Danny: 00:30:28

with that is the very reason they shouldn't be a politician, which I

Danny: 00:30:32

always thought was a really good thing.

Danny: 00:30:33

Obviously there's great politicians out there, but then you look at

Danny: 00:30:36

some and obviously in the UK, you've just had an election.

Danny: 00:30:39

There's been all sorts of craziness leading up to that, point in time.

Danny: 00:30:43

So yeah, I.

Danny: 00:30:44

Politicians, I will give that a pass, I feel, mate.

Neal: 00:30:48

Probably sensible, to be honest.

Neal: 00:30:50

Although I hear the parties are great.

Neal: 00:30:52

Yeah, exactly.

Danny: 00:30:53

I heard of them.

Danny: 00:30:53

They're really good.

Danny: 00:30:54

I'm going to, I'm going to take the knife out of the equation, okay?

Danny: 00:30:58

I'm going to cheat here.

Danny: 00:30:59

I know that was your answer and generally I would allow it, but no, I'm going

Danny: 00:31:02

to take the knife out of the equation.

Neal: 00:31:04

Your

Neal: 00:31:04

show your rules, Danny.

Danny: 00:31:05

That's fine.

Danny: 00:31:07

So before the knife then, prior to the knife, what was the

Danny: 00:31:09

best thing before sliced bread?

Neal: 00:31:11

Ladies and gentlemen, Danny is obviously one of the linesmen

Neal: 00:31:14

from one of the England games in the Euros recently and just

Neal: 00:31:16

changing the roles as he goes along.

Neal: 00:31:18

That's absolutely fine.

Neal: 00:31:19

I would say then, in which case, before Sliced Bread, what was the best thing?

Neal: 00:31:23

Surely, it has to be

Neal: 00:31:26

Music.

Danny: 00:31:27

Any particular genre?

Danny: 00:31:28

Just music.

Danny: 00:31:29

Just the creative outlet of music.

Neal: 00:31:31

I think we have to give props to the OGs, don't we?

Neal: 00:31:35

It has to be the old classical guys like Mozart, Beethoven,

Neal: 00:31:39

because, let's be honest about it.

Neal: 00:31:41

Without them, we wouldn't have, any of the Bebe Rexhas or David Guetta

Neal: 00:31:47

or any of the other nonsense that the kids are listening to these days.

Neal: 00:31:50

So yeah, I think with music is a, is something which now this is interesting

Neal: 00:31:56

actually, because what's interesting for me, it's probably dull as ditch

Neal: 00:31:59

water for you and your listeners.

Neal: 00:32:00

But for me, it's quite impactful that I can, even though I don't work

Neal: 00:32:05

directly in the music industry anymore, I was a, as I mentioned, I was a radio

Neal: 00:32:08

broadcast of many years and radio music was a big part of that job.

Neal: 00:32:13

And much like we alluded to earlier with busman's holiday, when

Neal: 00:32:17

you're Doing something for a job.

Neal: 00:32:20

The last thing you want to do really is go home and do more of that.

Neal: 00:32:22

So listening to music, focusing on it and listening with the headphones

Neal: 00:32:27

on my head when I got home from work wasn't something I did often, but when

Neal: 00:32:31

I did, obviously I was listening to the sort of music that I absolutely

Neal: 00:32:35

wanted to listen to, not the stuff I was paid to churn out on the speakers.

Neal: 00:32:38

And I still now to this day, I will still find myself if I

Neal: 00:32:42

really need to get into sort of a place of Zen or calm or whatever.

Neal: 00:32:47

I will stick some classical music on and it's really, I never would, I was never

Neal: 00:32:51

into classical music when I was younger.

Neal: 00:32:53

My dad was a big fan.

Neal: 00:32:55

He was into opera and, the Pavarotti's and Domingo's and the classical

Neal: 00:33:00

pieces and, orchestral, you name it.

Neal: 00:33:02

He was into all that, but I never was.

Neal: 00:33:05

And I found myself thinking, Dad, what do you see in all this?

Neal: 00:33:08

It's just a bunch of string instruments playing random notes, but As you get

Neal: 00:33:12

older, I think you start to appreciate older music, and more recently, I'd say

Neal: 00:33:17

about five to ten years ago, I started discovering the Beatles and listening

Neal: 00:33:21

to some of their stuff and appreciating it, and Yeah, I think music, it's one

Neal: 00:33:25

of those things that it just brings us together, it equalises everything

Neal: 00:33:30

and it just brings focus to us.

Danny: 00:33:32

And as the Spanish national team showed, you don't need words to

Danny: 00:33:36

go with music, you can still enjoy it.

Neal: 00:33:38

Nice callback, I love it.

Neal: 00:33:40

It's like you've done this before.

Danny: 00:33:42

Oh, I don't know.

Danny: 00:33:43

But yeah, music, like you say, it's a big connector.

Danny: 00:33:45

You don't have to know the language.

Danny: 00:33:47

You could, I don't understand, obviously, the language of opera.

Danny: 00:33:50

But I can appreciate the emotion that's clearly coming through from the singer.

Danny: 00:33:54

And I think that's a great call.

Danny: 00:33:56

All right, Neal.

Danny: 00:33:56

So we've reached the end.

Danny: 00:33:58

We've made it through the five random questions.

Danny: 00:34:00

And I appreciate your willingness to share and open up on that.

Danny: 00:34:05

As is the want to make it fair on every guest.

Danny: 00:34:09

I obviously do allow you, and I'm not going to say allow.

Danny: 00:34:11

I've said that before.

Danny: 00:34:12

That's wrong.

Danny: 00:34:13

I encourage you to share a random question of your own.

Danny: 00:34:15

So hit me up with your own random question.

Neal: 00:34:19

This one's actually very similar to one of the questions that I had in a sort

Neal: 00:34:23

of way and you'll get this in a moment.

Neal: 00:34:24

But if you could instantly master any new skill, hobby,

Neal: 00:34:31

or talent with zero practice.

Neal: 00:34:35

You wake up one morning and it's there.

Neal: 00:34:37

What would it be?

Danny: 00:34:39

That's a good one.

Danny: 00:34:40

See, part of me wants to say pottery.

Danny: 00:34:43

I don't know why it's just popped up my head.

Danny: 00:34:45

It just seemed like a nice relaxing thing to do.

Danny: 00:34:48

I was probably watching a YouTube video the other day that

Danny: 00:34:50

mentioned pottery for some reason.

Danny: 00:34:52

I feel that it needs to be something that would benefit my wife because she

Danny: 00:34:57

does all this stuff around the house.

Neal: 00:34:59

You know who's boss.

Danny: 00:35:01

She does a lot of the driving and everything, with the

Danny: 00:35:02

kids, gets them to sports, etc.

Danny: 00:35:04

So I feel that Yeah, I'm gonna actually go with that, actually.

Danny: 00:35:07

So my wife does a lot of crafting.

Danny: 00:35:08

She owns a Cricut, which makes, she's got like the laser cutter

Danny: 00:35:11

and the steel cutter and all that.

Danny: 00:35:13

So she'll make a whole bunch of really cool crafts.

Danny: 00:35:16

And her goal is to do it for fun.

Danny: 00:35:18

And we've talked about maybe, set up a little online store

Danny: 00:35:20

or a local store where we live.

Danny: 00:35:22

We're in a little village about three hours north of Toronto.

Danny: 00:35:24

So it's great in the summer because a lot of cottagers come up and it's a

Danny: 00:35:27

nice boom industry for tourists, etc.

Danny: 00:35:30

So it'd be cool to make stuff that we could sell, from the house, etc.

Danny: 00:35:35

So I'm going to say.

Danny: 00:35:36

If I could wake up tomorrow and be as expert as the people that's teaching

Danny: 00:35:43

my wife craft courses, et cetera, so I could just do all that while

Danny: 00:35:47

she's out with the kids at the sports and all that would be my skill set.

Danny: 00:35:50

I think about effort away from her side because she still wants to

Danny: 00:35:53

come home, do all the craft and then I'll look for opportunity to market.

Danny: 00:35:57

So that would be, I think, mate,

Neal: 00:35:59

I love it.

Neal: 00:35:59

And now we've understood fully why why Danny's wife.

Neal: 00:36:03

Is so committed to him because he's obviously a lovely man.

Neal: 00:36:06

It's always wanted to take work off her hands.

Danny: 00:36:08

Yeah it's happy wife, happy life.

Danny: 00:36:10

Isn't that the phrase?

Neal: 00:36:13

Yeah, I keep getting told this.

Neal: 00:36:14

I need to learn that one.

Neal: 00:36:15

Don't

Neal: 00:36:15

I?

Danny: 00:36:15

I think I don't know what that would be for husbands because there's

Danny: 00:36:17

no rhyming word for husband, is there?

Danny: 00:36:22

I don't know that we are just happy.

Danny: 00:36:23

We just as long as we've got a Sunday roast and an ice beer

Danny: 00:36:26

in front of us, life is good.

Danny: 00:36:28

Life is good.

Neal: 00:36:30

Yeah.

Danny: 00:36:30

So Neal, before I let you go, mate, obviously I do want to encourage listeners

Danny: 00:36:33

to check out, your podcast production agency, and all the cool stuff that you

Danny: 00:36:37

do for clients and other podcasters.

Danny: 00:36:38

So where's the best place to find out more about that and connect with you online.

Neal: 00:36:43

I would be delighted if anybody would want to connect on LinkedIn.

Neal: 00:36:46

I love LinkedIn.

Neal: 00:36:47

I live pretty much on LinkedIn.

Neal: 00:36:48

I'm also on Twitter.

Neal: 00:36:51

I'm not on there as often these days, it's always good to chat

Neal: 00:36:55

to fellow podcast enthusiasts.

Neal: 00:36:57

So by all means, look me up on there.

Neal: 00:36:59

If you're looking from the sort of like the, the podcasting services and advice

Neal: 00:37:03

point of view, then pod knows podcasting.

Neal: 00:37:05

co.

Neal: 00:37:06

uk is where I get the bills paid.

Danny: 00:37:09

And I'll be sure to leave all these links in the show notes.

Danny: 00:37:11

So whichever app you're listening to this episode on.

Danny: 00:37:13

Make sure to check them out.

Danny: 00:37:14

They'll link out directly to Neal and his website.

Danny: 00:37:17

So again, Neal, thanks for taking part today in 5 Random Questions.

Neal: 00:37:21

No, thanks for having me.

Neal: 00:37:22

It's been an absolute pleasure and great fun.

Danny: 00:37:25

Thanks for listening to Five Random Questions.

Danny: 00:37:27

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Danny: 00:37:30

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Danny: 00:37:34

And if you feel like leaving a review, that would make me happier

Danny: 00:37:37

than that time I realized podcasting was primarily an audio platform.

Danny: 00:37:40

At least in the early days, and my lack of George Clooney looks and

Danny: 00:37:43

charisma would not be a hindrance.

Danny: 00:37:45

But seriously, if you did want to leave a review or recommend the show

Danny: 00:37:48

to someone else, I'd be super grateful.

Danny: 00:37:50

Until the next time, keep asking those questions.